#172 - Why Pain Changes Us and Why Vision Changes Us More | Udo Erasmus

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The thing is when you have enough pain, you'll make changes, but when the pain goes, you
stop.

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And it's always more fun to chase a vision than to run away from pain.

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All right, you guys say welcome back for another, what is going to be an energetic and I
hope amazing episode.

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We'll see.

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we're to go deep with today's guest about health.

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And I just had a conversation and we're going to go deep also about human nature.

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I'm pumped, but, it's Udo Erasmus known world traveler.

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What I'm going to, what I think I'm going to understand after today, somehow like
planetary traveler, we're going to learn something about today's guests.

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That's going to be brand new.

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We're going to have a bunch of growth things happen, but

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Udo, he's a founder of Udo's Choice and author of Fats That Heal.

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Let me tell you something.

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I need to know a lot about this because I got some of this that needs to melt off, but
it's fats that heal, fats that kill.

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Udo is a longtime entrepreneur who built a category defining brand well before the
wellness industry became mainstream.

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His work offers a unique perspective on patience, trust, and long-term thinking,
especially for founders building businesses around strong convictions.

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which so many of us do.

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I'm looking forward to a thoughtful conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and
what it really takes to build something that lasts.

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Welcome to the entrepreneur party, Udo.

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Thanks Mark, I'm just gonna be fun.

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I can already feel it in my bones.

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Yeah, you said it might take three hours.

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Where do we want to start with this with, know, you've had over 3000, 5,000 presentations,
3000 interviews.

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What's on your mind right now as we wrap up 2025, whether it's health, whether it's human
nature, what do you fire it up to talk about now?

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Well, the two things that are most on my mind now is it struck, know, and I've worked,
I've inched my ways up to it.

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You know, it started with little projects.

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I was a little guy, right?

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I was never thought of myself.

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yeah.

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I mean, I was thought big, but I never thought like me, was so that I'm that important.

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And so I've been going bigger and bigger and bigger and now I'm 83 and I have some time
left.

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And I want to do the biggest thing that needs to be addressed.

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And it's twofold.

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One is human nature.

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Because the idea is we've been living here for 200,000 years and we've never created a
teachable field of human nature.

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You would think that would start in grade school and it would be the number one piece of
curriculum.

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And the second thing we've never done is turned health into a teachable field.

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And why is that?

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Because health, health is the one big thing that everybody's always thinking about every
day.

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Whether you got diarrhea or you got gas or you burping or your stomach hurts after you
eat, or you got rash on your skin or your joints hurt, or, know, when it rains, it hurts

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more.

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Or, you know, sometimes your thoughts drive you crazy.

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You know, all of that, has to do with us.

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not knowing where to keep ourselves to stay healthy.

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And I've created 10 parts to health, total health, 10 parts.

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Each one has a different nature and a different function, needs a different kind of
attention, needs attention on a regular basis, goes off in a different ways and responds

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to a different kind of intervention.

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And if you want to be totally healthy, you got to give each one of those 10 its due.

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All right.

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So with human nature, what I know is we have to take the complex things and break them
down and make them simple.

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Yeah, yeah, we, know, people think of themselves like I studied a psychologist called
individual psychology.

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Individual means indivisible.

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And it's a, it's a good psychology and it's pretty practical in certain ways.

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But the truth is we're not individuals.

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You're made of at least six parts that are completely different.

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They're so well integrated that you think you're just one guy.

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But you know that there are separable parts, because when a person dies, life and the body
part company.

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And the body's finished and life goes wherever energy goes, right?

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You know you could be in a coma and your mind could be completely absent, but your body
and your life would still be there.

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So there's at least three pieces right there.

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It goes, but it goes, but there's more than that.

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But it's super beautifully integrated so that all of us heads up.

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in all six parts of us, head in the same direction most of the time.

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Yeah.

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So how do you, how do you teach this building curriculum for our brain around
understanding it?

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And then boy, we could, after you understand it, then there's choices to be made.

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Right.

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Right.

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Well, the thing is you can't build a curriculum if you haven't done the homework.

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And what's the homework?

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Well, if you want to know about yourself, you see, look, I want to know.

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I heard Mark, Mark Perkins.

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Yeah, I heard good things about him.

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yeah, I want to get to know him.

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So I decide what am I going to do to get to know Mark Perkins?

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I go to my neighbor and only talk to my neighbor.

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Am I going to get to know you?

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No, because your neighbor's not even going to hear to you.

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Yep, and even if they have an opinion, that one person's opinion.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And of course, if you don't like it, it's totally wrong, right?

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Right?

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But so the idea is if you want to know what is human nature, where should you look?

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I mean, I should look internal.

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Yeah, hello.

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You are those six parts in your being.

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You want to observe something.

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You need to spend time with what you want to observe.

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Right?

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So what does that mean?

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You need to spend time if you want to get to know human nature.

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And it'd be a really good idea if you wanted to get to know it.

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You need to spend time with yourself.

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So what's the benefit?

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Moving out the distraction, leaving the distractions outside, bring your focus into the
space your body occupies.

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Look around, listen in, know, feel in what's there.

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What is there in the space your body occupies?

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That's what you have to do.

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So that's the whole, we call it the homework, the work you do at home in yourself, right?

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And hardly anybody does it.

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Yeah, the word self, you know, we, what we do is there's these things, there's
self-esteem, self-confidence, self-belief.

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Everybody moves past that first word in all these categories and they're waiting for the
rest of the world to do something for them in all these areas.

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It's like, self it's founded in self.

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Yeah, for instance.

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That's why it's called self, right?

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Because you do it yourself.

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Well, you're we're supposed to but we beyond it.

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It's like we're waiting for the rest of the world to help us improve self-esteem I don't
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But we're trained like that.

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And part of it is because, you know, I guess talking about entrepreneurs is because we're
not entrepreneurs.

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So we're not doing the self-motivated work we need to do in order to be successful in
getting to know ourselves.

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This sounds like so, so my journey probably, you know, it starts when we were born
probably, but the journey I remember turning on, I speak about this at times.

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It was a time when I had no money in my life.

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Cables turned off.

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just have public television.

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It's probably all we should have anyway, but, and I would back to back consistently.

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Charlie Rose would come on and he was one the most fantastic interviewers, no matter what
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He was just an awesome interviewer.

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But then after that, a lot of times on PBS.

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A guy named Wayne Dyer would come on.

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And as you're speaking to this, I'm like, this sounds like what Wayne Dyer was talking
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talks about Dharma as he talks.

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And it's just so calming.

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And it seemed like he understood himself in human nature.

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To some extent, yeah.

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But you don't even have to go there.

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Like he was pretty esoteric.

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What about Buddha?

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What about Krishna?

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What about Jesus?

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They were teachers of human nature.

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Lao Tzu, Huang Po, there's a ton of them.

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And they left, know, whatever writings are left from them, there's wisdom in those
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For instance, since we live in a North American society,

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And Jesus was the dominant until recently at least, was the most dominant teacher of human
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So what did he say?

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Kingdom of heaven is within you.

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What's in the kingdom of heaven?

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All the good stuff, none of the bad stuff, right?

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Kingdom of heaven is within you.

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So that God lives there and Christ lives there and Holy Spirit lives there and peace is
there and love is there and

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Joy is there and wisdom is there and beauty is there and contentment is there.

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You know, I mean, you could go on and on all the good stuff that everybody wants, but
nobody's looking inside.

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Even though the smartest guy on the, on the, on the, you know, on the block said kingdom
of heaven is within you.

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Okay.

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Well, that should get you interested in spending time with yourself, but it doesn't.

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Then the second thing he does for you, for, because we're dummies, says,

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Seek first the kingdom and then everything else will be added unto you.

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So everything else will fall into place.

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And then because we're still even dumb and that's not enough, seek first.

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That means you have to bring your focus inside.

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Right?

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Then he says, not everybody who says, Lord, Lord enters the kingdom.

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So that means what?

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This is not just about words.

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This has got to be an experience.

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What is your raw experience of yourself?

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I don't think most people truly live in experience.

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think they just exist.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Then he says, what you've done to one of the least of these that you have done to me.

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And if you think about that, he's saying, I'm in everybody.

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Of course, you already know that.

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Kingdom of heaven is within you.

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So if the kingdom of heaven is within you and Christ lives in the kingdom of heaven, then
Christ lives within you.

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You know?

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I mean, in a way, it's really simple.

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It's been really well explained.

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We memorize the words and we don't do the homework.

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So what's so difficult about, let's say someone listens here or listens to, you your
engagement over the years and it makes sense.

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Let's say it makes sense to them.

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How do we define human nature?

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If it's these six areas, six parts to a human, but then human nature, can it be defined
that every person, every human shares this nature or is it different?

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Would you argue that it's significantly different in all of us?

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Because there's some of the gurus out here like Tony Robbins and this people I do, I don't
follow really any person, but there's really, there's a lot of intelligence with a lot of

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them, but he talks about patterns.

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He said, just write patterns and then, you know,

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Seeing them and then working with them and then creating them.

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But is it all the same?

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Is human nature all the same in all of us?

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Yes.

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And let me qualify that because some things are the same.

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Okay, let me just like go into it, okay?

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So one of the things is that your universal essence is an infinite, all-encompassing
peace.

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And that all-encompassing peace is also called awareness, it's also called the field, it's
also called God, it's also called oneness, wholeness.

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Peace.

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There's more peace in this universe than anything else.

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But we don't see it because only peace can see peace.

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So you gotta get in touch with the peace at the core of your being, which is your access
to the peace that is everywhere.

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So if you're not doing the homework, you ain't gonna see the peace.

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But the truth is, galaxies explode in peace.

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It's like pieces like space, right?

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Galaxies explode in peace and peace is not affected.

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That every human being has in common as their innermost nature, okay?

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Nobody different.

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Nobody, there's not different pieces of peace.

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Same thing and it's everywhere.

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So that one's the same.

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Second is life.

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Life is a flow.

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Of a fraction of solar energy.

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And this is true for any, any creature on the planet, microbes, plants, funguses, animals,
humans.

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So your life is a fraction of solar energy that's been filtered through the, through 93
million miles of space.

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That's good because if you got too close to it, would burn your toenails.

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Right?

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So it's filtered.

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So there was a right distance away from it.

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Then it's filtered through the atmosphere.

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then it's filtered through mostly green plants.

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And the fraction of solar energy that remains activates electrons.

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They get excited, they jump orbits, and then they bond with electrons from other atoms
that make molecules.

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And that solar energy fraction is stored in the molecules.

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You eat those as food, and in your cells, those molecules, those bonds are broken.

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The solar energy is released and now we call it life.

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Life energy.

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Now look around the planet.

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The power source is the sun, right?

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And when the sun's shining, it's warm.

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And when you're on the backside of the, you know, on the dark side of the earth, it's
cold, right?

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And you know, if you go like maybe, maybe a couple hundred miles out, it's like minus 50,
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So the solar energy runs everything on the planet.

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And that energy is life or life energy.

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Its nature is a flow of unconditional empowering love in, of, for, and throughout your
body.

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That energy is also omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient in the body.

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That's by the way, one definition of God, right?

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Everywhere in your body.

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weighs nothing, runs everything, is the master in your body, is the resident expert, is
the CEO, is the owner and operator, is the benevolent dictator in your body.

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Right?

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We have that in common too.

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Every one of us, that's our individual essence.

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Peace is our universal essence.

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This is our individual essence.

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And then the third one we have in common is the shine of that energy into the world.

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I call it inspired purpose, but you can also call it positive mind.

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And that's about vision and inspiration and imagination.

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and creativity and design and its nature is to shine this unconditional empowering love
into the world, which means when you feel that, when you've done the homework and you feel

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the peace and the love, you look around and you say, okay, where can I help?

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Because what else is there to do?

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I'm taken care of.

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It's not about me anymore.

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Where can I help?

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What needs to be done?

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How can I make the biggest splash for good that is possible to do in the time that I have?

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And there the differences begin.

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Yeah, we usually find what we seek.

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I found that in life.

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It's why attitude is so important.

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Right.

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So we have the shine in common, but what we directed to, we have some choices.

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Next, we go into the body.

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We have a body in common, but if you eat garbage, then you're going to end up with a body
made out of garbage.

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And if you eat in line with nature and your nature, you're going to end up with a body
that works more effectively and will last longer than it would if if you, if you'd garbage

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it out.

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Okay.

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So we have the body in common, but the shape of the body, is individual differences.

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And then number five is, I call it survival smarts.

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And that's all this stuff that has to do with safety, protection, procreation, parenting,
education, skills, survival skills, mastery, and all that kind of stuff.

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And there again, we have this need for protection in common.

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You know, cause we live now, we live in a body that is, that's a delicate, you know, and
the soft body lives in a hard world.

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And so there's, so safety is an issue, right?

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So again, the skills we have around safety may be different, but the need for safety we
have in common.

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Then the last one is I call it habitual mind.

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It's all the garbage, all the baggage we carry, all the mental baggage we carry.

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Whether it's cultural or religious or national, all of our favorite memes, all of our knee
jerks that the politicians use to get our attention.

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You know, all the habits that worked for our grandparents in the horse and buggy days, but
we still think of them and believe like that now when we're living in a jet age.

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So again, that's also different.

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And that part is.

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baggage that you want to bring to mind, you want to become aware of it, and you want to
look at it.

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Is that really true?

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Is this really helpful anymore?

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And if it's not, then you discard it.

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So those are the six parts of human nature.

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So what's different is usually, you know, somebody's once said, the ability to think is
God's gift to you.

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But what you think about is your gift to yourself.

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See, and some people's gift to themselves is to be anxious and overwhelmed, and some
people's gift to themselves is to be grateful and be aware of, my God, dust, water, air,

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and a little sunshine get mixed up in a way that I get to have the human experience.

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I mean, this goes back to, you know, Napoleon Hill's writings.

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goes back to even the book, secret, it's all these things, but isn't it really the thing
that we think about is the thing that we're going to attain that we're going to

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participate in, that we're going to be a part of that we're going to accomplish.

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I've just.

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Right.

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It's about where your focus goes.

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Right?

285
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Because if your focus is on the peace, you will feel peace.

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If your focus is on the energy, you'll feel the empowered love.

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If your focus is on what he said, she said, when he was drunk and had a bad day and then
you took it personally, right?

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Then if you, you know, that's going to become your reality.

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So wherever your focus go, that'll define your reality and what you focused on most often.

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takes the largest part in defining your reality.

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So what's the biggest impact if the deeper we go into understanding human nature of truly
knowing it is the biggest impact for us personally, or is the impact for the capability we

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have to interact with the world.

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Well, it depends on whether you're focused on being a human being or a human doing.

294
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Right?

295
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We are human beings, but we live like human doings.

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So we make and put our focus on doing, doing, doing, doing.

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And I say, well, if you do, do, do, do too much, then you end up being doodoo.

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Right?

299
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And so then the question you ask is, well, is being more important than doing or is doing
more important than being?

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Well, probably everything that needs to be done is probably, it probably happens through
the being.

301
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Well, the thing is this, you can be without doing, but you can't do without being.

302
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So being is your foundation.

303
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so your being is where your contentment comes from, is where your fulfillment comes from,
is where all the things that people struggle to try and find, we already have it in us.

304
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It's just our focus wandered off, right?

305
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So the fulfillment is in the being.

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And then the doing is the natural expression of how far we've come in being.

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Yeah, give me your perfect definition of

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being.

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existence, presence, peace, contentment, calmness.

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And doesn't that have to be, doesn't that have to disassociate with everything else going
out inside the world that's trying to come in and impact us?

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No, no, what's interesting in it is that that peace, that being is present and unaffected
by anything going on anywhere.

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So you could live in heaven in the midst of hell, because heaven is where the peace lives,
right?

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But the issue is, okay, you're in hell.

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If you focus on the hell you're in, then your focus is off.

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So you can be in hell.

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and focus on the peace you're in and the hell becomes more bearable and becomes less,
know, ends up having less power over you.

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But when you go focus on, you know, like I was born during the second world war.

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So peace was a big, and always a big issue for me, right?

319
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So in the sixties, I was part of the peace movement, but not for very long because I
realized that we were,

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The peace movement was not about peace.

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The peace movement was against war.

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So we were, every time we talked, we were advertising war, even though we were saying
anti-war, anti-war, anti-war, but it was always anti-war, war, war, war, war, war, war.

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And I said, wait a minute, I'm not interested in war.

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I'm not interested in anti-war.

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I'm interested in peace.

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This is not where I need to be if I'm looking for peace.

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Yeah, I heard something very that most people seems very controversial and I bring it up
to my friends that, you know, I even hate these terms about color of skin and minority and

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all this, but I heard Morgan Freeman.

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He was in an interview, I believe with Larry King or someone years ago and we don't, you
know where I'm going with this.

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said, do you eliminate racism?

331
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He instantly said, stop talking about.

332
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Yeah.

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Well, I agree and I disagree.

334
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But I'll tell you why.

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I had a friend that I worked with and she had the blackest skin I've ever seen.

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And there's like a part of East Africa, Northern East Africa, they're so black.

337
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Is that like Somalia in that area?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That area.

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Yeah.

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And I, I looked at her and I was working with her and there was always these issues.

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And when she was from the U S and the U S racism was bigger deal than in Canada.

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Cause you know, it was, we, we, we didn't have black people, many black people in Canada
for a long time.

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More now, but so, so she's sitting across the table from me and I just looked at her and
I'm just going in my head.

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Wow.

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She's so black.

347
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And I leaned forward and I said, Willett, I love how black you are.

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You know, we work together so well, we never had an possible issue.

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So it's not that I didn't acknowledge the difference, it's I did it with love.

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Right?

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And so the other way to look at it is, the pigment, the jeans for skin pigment, there are
about 10 of them.

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out of 23,000.

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What is that?

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One in 2,300.

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That's like less than 0.5%.

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So it's a very, very, very small difference.

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And if you notice, like if a black person opens their mouth, the skin inside is pink,
right?

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So it's just a covering that happened to people that lived in the tropics where the
sunlight was very intense.

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And it protected them from getting fried in the sun.

360
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And then we were, and I'm a bleached African by the way.

361
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You know, I don't look like one, but why?

362
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Because we left Africa, went to North country and losing the pigment had survival value
because there was less sun.

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So we were able with less pigment to absorb more of the sunshine to make more vitamin D.

364
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Right?

365
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And now when you go look in, in U.S.

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Where are you?

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here in the Midwest.

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Okay, so if you're in the U.S.

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and you're a white person, 68 % of the population is vitamin D deficient.

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If you're Hispanic, so your skin is a little bit darker, 75 % of the population is vitamin
D deficient.

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And if you have black skin, 82 % of the population is vitamin D deficient.

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And that's because of

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the more northern latitude.

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dark skinned people have more of a problem absorbing sunlight enough to make enough
vitamin D.

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We also don't run around naked, so there's lots of other reasons.

376
00:26:14,748 --> 00:26:26,588
But basically, we're living in the same place, but our ability to absorb sunshine and make
vitamin D is different because of the skin pigment, right?

377
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But we might have different color skin, but the piece that is the

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universal essence of every being is exactly the same.

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And the unconditional empowering love that is the individual essence of every human being
is also exactly the same.

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And when I'm in touch with that within me, don't, I feel cared for because that's what
cares for me.

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And when I feel cared for, I'm okay with everything else too.

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And then what can change, can be different, what's different can be different.

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It's not a problem.

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And what changes can change.

385
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It's not a problem, right?

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Because I have my stability.

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I have my anchor.

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I have my foundation, right?

389
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And I don't think that we, I don't think we're ever going to get not through woke and not
through getting all the words right.

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You know, the words become right when the feeling is right, not the other way around.

391
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It's not like when you

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force people to get the words right, then the feeling becomes right.

393
00:27:31,946 --> 00:27:33,548
No, that doesn't work.

394
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And in fact, those people who say we should be doing all this include everybody and
they're just as judgment as everybody else.

395
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Yeah.

396
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Right.

397
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So, so, so

398
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think with the people with all the different types of religions, it's like, you know,
agnostic and atheism.

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It's a, it's a religion too.

400
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It's just a thing that people believe it's a way that things operate.

401
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Right.

402
00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:59,947
And so it's like, the thing you're attacking, even though you don't identify it the same
way, you're still grounded in something similar.

403
00:27:59,949 --> 00:28:01,980
Yeah, even science is a religion these days.

404
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:02,770
Yes.

405
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You know, and the point is, and the point is, and what all the teachers said is, listen,
get quiet, calm down, sit with yourself, observe without agenda.

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Notice what's there.

407
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Find out what is the nature of things.

408
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Right?

409
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And you can't do that if you can't get quiet.

410
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Yeah.

411
00:28:26,128 --> 00:28:29,121
What's going on with the agenda of things and it, it's the world.

412
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It's everything.

413
00:28:29,671 --> 00:28:31,633
It's everyone is agenda based.

414
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What I had my philosophy, but you're more intelligent about this.

415
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What's the, what's the reasoning for that?

416
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:43,194
Why do we need these agendas and these big statements and beliefs and dictations?

417
00:28:43,292 --> 00:28:53,258
Well, if you're not, if you're not in the raw experience of life, where your love is,
where you don't need rules, where you don't need fences, like, you know, I'll give you

418
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just an example.

419
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I gave a talk on peace once.

420
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And it was a group of people, 300 people maybe.

421
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And at the end of it, this woman put up her hand and says, well, I hope with all this P,
all this talk about peace, I hope you're also against violence against women.

422
00:29:07,035 --> 00:29:08,035
Right?

423
00:29:08,296 --> 00:29:08,803
Okay.

424
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What you want to say is of course!

425
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,874
that's one of the I'm talking about!

426
00:29:11,874 --> 00:29:21,626
No, so I said, so my answer to her was, I have never heard or read about or in any way
ever.

427
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found an act of violence perpetrated against a woman by anyone in a moment of peace.

428
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because where's the violence come from?

429
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It comes from discontent.

430
00:29:37,938 --> 00:29:47,786
And then when you're discontent and you know your woman disagrees with you, whatever it is
that's going on, then you get this idea and you may not be like really conscious of it.

431
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:51,747
It's like, boy, like, but at least if I belter, at least you'll shut up.

432
00:29:51,747 --> 00:29:55,319
Or if I belt her, you know, then I'll feel better.

433
00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:57,480
But it comes out of discontent.

434
00:29:57,780 --> 00:30:07,587
So then I said, so if that's true, then shouldn't we figure out how we can get to
contentment because that will make the violence go away.

435
00:30:07,587 --> 00:30:11,869
instead of, you know, instead of violence against women, what are you doing?

436
00:30:11,869 --> 00:30:16,052
You're advertising violence because you're talking about it.

437
00:30:16,052 --> 00:30:19,123
So in that sense, Morgan Freeman is right.

438
00:30:19,482 --> 00:30:28,248
If you say black is bad, and then you say, well, I think we should make black not bad,
you're still focusing on the difference.

439
00:30:28,582 --> 00:30:30,820
Or you're saying, well, we should make it not bad.

440
00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:34,092
Well, you're still talking about making it bad, right?

441
00:30:34,092 --> 00:30:41,447
So on the one hand, I agree with him that we talk too much about it, but it's the
negativity in the talk that's the problem.

442
00:30:41,735 --> 00:30:45,166
Not the fact that people are black and white and other colors.

443
00:30:45,566 --> 00:30:46,066
Right?

444
00:30:46,066 --> 00:30:57,872
And so what do we, where do we need to be in our own being to accept that people come in
different shades of white, pink, black, brown, red, yellow and gray.

445
00:30:58,272 --> 00:30:58,872
Right?

446
00:30:58,872 --> 00:31:01,803
Where do we need to be in ourselves?

447
00:31:01,803 --> 00:31:07,275
And the masters all said, seek first the kingdom, do your homework.

448
00:31:07,275 --> 00:31:09,005
I say, do the homework.

449
00:31:09,383 --> 00:31:19,218
When you've done the homework and your homework is done, there will be harmony in your
relationships, there will be harmony in the world, there will be harmony within you, and

450
00:31:19,218 --> 00:31:26,027
you will have the longest, healthiest life that's possible to have, given your particular
genetic nature.

451
00:31:26,055 --> 00:31:33,533
So what's holding us back instead of me bringing up all these things like this, you know,
there's humans that have a disassociation with responsibility and choice and all, but it

452
00:31:33,533 --> 00:31:37,467
all comes back to peace, but it's can we identify the problem?

453
00:31:37,467 --> 00:31:40,010
I have to ask why can we identify the problem?

454
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:41,891
Is that worthy in this moment?

455
00:31:42,749 --> 00:31:43,020
Sure.

456
00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:44,131
I'll tell you how we got there.

457
00:31:44,131 --> 00:31:45,914
It's very, people don't think about it.

458
00:31:45,914 --> 00:31:48,347
I don't know why it's really funny.

459
00:31:48,347 --> 00:31:52,791
So when you were in your mother's womb, what was it like in there?

460
00:31:53,457 --> 00:31:54,574
It was awesome.

461
00:31:55,416 --> 00:31:57,060
And why was it awesome?

462
00:31:57,344 --> 00:32:01,221
You should have been bored crazy because it was nothing to do.

463
00:32:01,221 --> 00:32:10,885
was growing and taking care of and nurturing and everything was taking care of the wife
and everything, everything that was happening there was going to set us up for who we were

464
00:32:10,885 --> 00:32:13,226
going to become and come out in the world and become this.

465
00:32:13,226 --> 00:32:15,957
And yeah, it was, was, it was incredible.

466
00:32:17,258 --> 00:32:19,646
Nope, but it was incredible because

467
00:32:19,646 --> 00:32:21,451
You didn't even know you had a body.

468
00:32:21,451 --> 00:32:22,383
I call it the Buddha tank.

469
00:32:22,383 --> 00:32:28,795
You're floating in the Buddha tank and the body was being created and there was no place
to go and nothing to do and everything was taken care of.

470
00:32:28,795 --> 00:32:30,387
And was pretty safe.

471
00:32:30,387 --> 00:32:34,777
But isn't it true though with me thinking it was amazing, then it must have been.

472
00:32:34,777 --> 00:32:35,337
Yeah, yeah.

473
00:32:35,337 --> 00:32:38,408
Well, no, so we're getting there.

474
00:32:38,408 --> 00:32:40,439
So where was your focus when you were in the womb?

475
00:32:40,439 --> 00:32:41,710
There was no place to go.

476
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,510
You didn't know there was a mother around you.

477
00:32:43,510 --> 00:32:45,671
You didn't know there was a world around your mother.

478
00:32:45,671 --> 00:32:46,701
You had no language.

479
00:32:46,701 --> 00:32:48,292
You never had to go pee.

480
00:32:48,292 --> 00:32:48,572
Right?

481
00:32:48,572 --> 00:32:52,394
This is like, everything was okay.

482
00:32:52,394 --> 00:32:53,594
So where was your focus?

483
00:32:53,594 --> 00:32:54,935
Well, it never went anywhere.

484
00:32:54,935 --> 00:32:57,395
It was at rest inside in its source.

485
00:32:57,395 --> 00:32:59,296
What is the source of focus?

486
00:32:59,296 --> 00:33:02,657
Inside in life or beyond that in awareness.

487
00:33:02,938 --> 00:33:04,548
That's where your focus was.

488
00:33:05,221 --> 00:33:11,476
And in that focus, in that, if that's where your focus was, well, there was peace and
there was love and, there was cool.

489
00:33:11,476 --> 00:33:13,417
There was this, it was this cool, right?

490
00:33:14,178 --> 00:33:18,581
But then you got booted out, paradise lost, right?

491
00:33:18,581 --> 00:33:19,621
You're in paradise.

492
00:33:19,621 --> 00:33:23,583
know, and you were, the way, it was boring as hell for nine months.

493
00:33:23,592 --> 00:33:24,824
It was nothing to do.

494
00:33:24,824 --> 00:33:28,637
Can you imagine sitting doing nothing for nine months now?

495
00:33:28,637 --> 00:33:30,396
I'm so busy, yes I can.

496
00:33:30,396 --> 00:33:31,276
I don't think so.

497
00:33:31,276 --> 00:33:34,999
But anyway, but anyway, so you should have been bored, but you weren't bored.

498
00:33:34,999 --> 00:33:37,371
You were in bliss because you were in that peace.

499
00:33:37,371 --> 00:33:38,291
You were in that love.

500
00:33:38,291 --> 00:33:40,683
You were in, that space.

501
00:33:40,683 --> 00:33:42,784
So then that's where your focus was.

502
00:33:42,784 --> 00:33:46,386
So then you got booted out and now everything changed.

503
00:33:46,887 --> 00:33:50,771
Now you had to get to know the world because you have to survive in it.

504
00:33:50,771 --> 00:33:57,285
And so your focus got drawn out through your senses into the world to monitor change.

505
00:33:58,051 --> 00:34:01,472
Because every time something changes, you're immediately attracted to it.

506
00:34:01,472 --> 00:34:02,154
What's that?

507
00:34:02,154 --> 00:34:03,005
And why is that?

508
00:34:03,005 --> 00:34:09,050
Because for survival, you have to notice change and you have to assess it.

509
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:10,751
Is this friend to approach?

510
00:34:10,751 --> 00:34:13,223
Is this foe to run or fight?

511
00:34:13,223 --> 00:34:16,426
Or is this irrelevant and safe to ignore?

512
00:34:16,426 --> 00:34:18,759
And every time something changes, you go.

513
00:34:18,759 --> 00:34:23,697
You know, I give lectures and I'm really interesting and I have a whole room full of
people.

514
00:34:23,697 --> 00:34:24,858
And they're all watching me.

515
00:34:24,858 --> 00:34:30,473
And if the side door on the, on the hall opens and somebody walks in, I lose my audience
instantly.

516
00:34:30,473 --> 00:34:31,114
All of it.

517
00:34:31,114 --> 00:34:34,246
That's how, that's how drawn we are to that.

518
00:34:34,246 --> 00:34:36,217
And it's important for survival.

519
00:34:36,598 --> 00:34:45,486
But in that process, we went, went from being present inside in that peace, that love,
that bliss, that whatever you call it.

520
00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:52,036
And absent outside in our focus to more and more focused outside.

521
00:34:52,036 --> 00:34:53,777
and absent insight.

522
00:34:53,777 --> 00:34:59,342
So we got disconnected from our wholeness self, our peace and love self.

523
00:34:59,342 --> 00:35:01,223
We got disconnected from that.

524
00:35:01,223 --> 00:35:04,025
And that's where heartache began.

525
00:35:04,145 --> 00:35:07,026
From the disconnection came discontent.

526
00:35:07,026 --> 00:35:08,768
Discontent is heartache.

527
00:35:08,768 --> 00:35:16,339
Discontent is all kinds of things, loss, grief, sadness, loneliness, longing, blues.

528
00:35:16,339 --> 00:35:19,021
But something, something is not right.

529
00:35:19,021 --> 00:35:20,793
Something's not right, doesn't feel right.

530
00:35:20,793 --> 00:35:25,246
And we know that when we help people, it feels good in that place.

531
00:35:25,387 --> 00:35:28,989
And we know that when we hurt people, it feels bad in that place.

532
00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:36,416
That place is the greatest gift we've been given, although we hate it, because we don't
like feeling heartache.

533
00:35:36,416 --> 00:35:44,958
And so we try to distract ourselves or ignore it or explain it away or, you know, or deny
it.

534
00:35:44,958 --> 00:35:51,916
or blame it on somebody like black people or like immigrants, like foreigners, right?

535
00:35:51,916 --> 00:35:59,672
So because we're discontent, one of the ways we deal with it is we blame it on people,
right?

536
00:35:59,672 --> 00:36:02,087
We give away, we give away all our power.

537
00:36:02,102 --> 00:36:02,512
Yeah.

538
00:36:02,512 --> 00:36:06,595
And, and yeah, and because the power is inside and the focus is outside.

539
00:36:06,776 --> 00:36:07,617
Right.

540
00:36:07,617 --> 00:36:07,977
Okay.

541
00:36:07,977 --> 00:36:14,082
So, so we, so we end up living in heartache and heartache is our driving force.

542
00:36:14,282 --> 00:36:17,195
Because then we think, well, if I make a million dollars, I'll be happy.

543
00:36:17,195 --> 00:36:20,087
And I had a friend I worked with and he said that to me.

544
00:36:20,087 --> 00:36:21,267
said, no, you won't.

545
00:36:21,528 --> 00:36:22,749
He said, what do mean?

546
00:36:22,749 --> 00:36:25,742
I said, well, when you make a million dollars, you'll find out you're not happy.

547
00:36:25,742 --> 00:36:29,354
And then you're going to say, I'll be happy when I make 10 million dollars.

548
00:36:29,675 --> 00:36:31,256
And he thought about it he said,

549
00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:32,697
Yeah, I think you're right.

550
00:36:33,037 --> 00:36:34,459
Because we try to do that.

551
00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:47,388
It's either the girl or it's the money or it's the status or it's the power or it's the
conquest or it's whatever it is, driven, always undertaken in the hope that when we

552
00:36:47,388 --> 00:36:50,530
succeed, we will feel okay again.

553
00:36:51,551 --> 00:36:53,322
And it never works.

554
00:36:53,366 --> 00:37:01,552
I had a real world example, not using any names, but somebody who's been, I operate a
bunch of businesses, but we have a pretty successful real estate company.

555
00:37:02,012 --> 00:37:06,295
One of the realtors who's been with us for a long time came up to me and said, Hey, I'm
going to share something with you.

556
00:37:06,295 --> 00:37:12,445
And, and I said, I already know so and so snow, so and so is going to get a divorce.

557
00:37:12,445 --> 00:37:12,729
yeah.

558
00:37:12,729 --> 00:37:16,247
When someone that was so he's, he looked at me he said, told us that no one told me.

559
00:37:16,248 --> 00:37:17,008
He said, how'd you know?

560
00:37:17,008 --> 00:37:18,309
I said, I just been watching.

561
00:37:18,951 --> 00:37:20,582
And so he went, what are you talking about?

562
00:37:20,582 --> 00:37:20,952
I said, yes.

563
00:37:20,952 --> 00:37:26,886
So I shared some things and I said, Hey, here's what sucks about the person who made the
decision to get divorced.

564
00:37:26,886 --> 00:37:31,110
Here's what sucks about them is they've changed a lot of jobs over the past few years.

565
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:32,401
their mother passed away.

566
00:37:32,401 --> 00:37:41,177
They've had, I said, what they don't know is they keep pointing the focus on problems in
their lives with other people with jobs.

567
00:37:41,177 --> 00:37:42,458
said, here's what really sucks.

568
00:37:42,458 --> 00:37:42,948
I'm sad.

569
00:37:42,948 --> 00:37:44,559
I'm not judgmental about it.

570
00:37:44,981 --> 00:37:46,774
They have to fix themselves first.

571
00:37:47,697 --> 00:37:50,022
I could tell you that's what's causing all this.

572
00:37:50,022 --> 00:37:50,495
Yeah.

573
00:37:50,495 --> 00:37:53,275
can tell you this is a really good one for relationship.

574
00:37:53,275 --> 00:37:57,715
When I met my ex, I saw the beauty in her.

575
00:37:57,715 --> 00:37:59,075
I saw the goddess.

576
00:37:59,075 --> 00:38:00,315
Honestly, it was like that.

577
00:38:00,315 --> 00:38:02,015
It was very powerful.

578
00:38:02,175 --> 00:38:07,054
And she saw the equivalent, the male equivalent in me.

579
00:38:07,735 --> 00:38:13,215
And so I thought my love will come from her and she thought her love will come from me.

580
00:38:13,215 --> 00:38:16,735
But neither of us had done our homework.

581
00:38:16,905 --> 00:38:21,718
We didn't know how to go to that unconditional love inside and bring it out.

582
00:38:21,718 --> 00:38:23,549
So we wanted it from the other person.

583
00:38:23,549 --> 00:38:26,640
So we put that burden on the other person.

584
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,743
She did it to me and I did it to her because we both hadn't done our homework.

585
00:38:31,743 --> 00:38:32,984
And guess what?

586
00:38:32,984 --> 00:38:43,029
We got disappointed because we both came up empty because neither of us could bring, well,
if I can't get to the love in me and she can't get to the love in her, where the hell is

587
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:45,140
the love in the relationship supposed to come from?

588
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:46,921
Right?

589
00:38:46,921 --> 00:38:50,744
And so then basically that's how the relationship got destroyed.

590
00:38:50,744 --> 00:38:54,083
And honestly, that's how all relationships get destroyed.

591
00:38:54,163 --> 00:38:57,256
I've been talking a lot around my companies over the past two to three years.

592
00:38:57,256 --> 00:38:58,837
This is an evolution for myself.

593
00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:00,599
Don't know how I rose here.

594
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,182
Don't know what, from what reading or following or internal conversation.

595
00:39:04,182 --> 00:39:08,045
But I said, you all, the unlock is stopping judging yourself.

596
00:39:09,287 --> 00:39:11,869
And you stop, then you stop judging others.

597
00:39:12,937 --> 00:39:15,200
There's only, that's woke.

598
00:39:16,323 --> 00:39:18,005
Stop judging yourself.

599
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:19,362
See, how do you stop judging?

600
00:39:19,362 --> 00:39:21,752
No, no, so how do you stop judging yourself?

601
00:39:21,752 --> 00:39:27,597
You gotta go to the place where love lives, because in love there is no judgment.

602
00:39:27,597 --> 00:39:28,577
There you go.

603
00:39:28,577 --> 00:39:28,817
Yep.

604
00:39:28,817 --> 00:39:29,757
But I'm real.

605
00:39:29,757 --> 00:39:31,037
I'm real about outcomes.

606
00:39:31,037 --> 00:39:32,457
I'm balancing this.

607
00:39:32,457 --> 00:39:39,357
Listen, this is still a journey of life, but I'm balancing all the, if I'm not getting the
outcome I want, I do have honest reflection more all the time, but hey, I need to change

608
00:39:39,357 --> 00:39:39,637
something.

609
00:39:39,637 --> 00:39:41,157
It needs to be some different, different.

610
00:39:41,157 --> 00:39:47,317
But what I'm not doing is I'm not living in the judgment that causes anxiety and that
causes grief and strife and depression.

611
00:39:47,317 --> 00:39:48,517
I'm not doing all that.

612
00:39:48,517 --> 00:39:50,457
And so I started sharing that with other people.

613
00:39:50,457 --> 00:39:52,397
I said, I'm telling you all, I'm serious.

614
00:39:52,397 --> 00:39:56,107
What is alleviating me not needing to judge others, just seeing them for who they are.

615
00:39:56,107 --> 00:39:59,927
and just being present with them, whether it's good or not, is by you not doing it
yourself.

616
00:39:59,927 --> 00:40:04,360
But more important than being present with them is being present with yourself.

617
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:11,045
Because only when you're present with yourself, can you actually be with them, especially
when they're not with themselves.

618
00:40:11,045 --> 00:40:20,539
Then you become an example for them to get at least a little bit of a hit of what it's
like to be with themselves.

619
00:40:20,615 --> 00:40:30,350
The only way that I've truly been able to be present with people and be impactful and be
intentional is to remove all of it and just be there and to listen and be a part.

620
00:40:30,350 --> 00:40:33,851
And you can see everything happening, things they don't even see about themselves.

621
00:40:33,851 --> 00:40:37,093
You can see reasons why they're doing something that they have no clue.

622
00:40:37,093 --> 00:40:41,440
And that is truly an opportunity to help and influence, to lead them.

623
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,731
Right.

624
00:40:41,731 --> 00:40:42,253
Yeah.

625
00:40:42,253 --> 00:40:47,284
And to be the example of a person living present in their own space.

626
00:40:47,284 --> 00:40:47,716
Yeah.

627
00:40:47,716 --> 00:40:48,397
And I had to grow.

628
00:40:48,397 --> 00:40:50,584
I mean, this is not, this isn't, this isn't.

629
00:40:50,584 --> 00:40:50,966
Yeah.

630
00:40:50,966 --> 00:40:57,295
Yeah, honestly, that's the most important thing that we could each do on this planet.

631
00:40:58,097 --> 00:41:07,350
Because all of the problems that we have come from not doing that and being discontent and
then spreading the discontent in our expression of ourselves.

632
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:08,250
Yeah.

633
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:10,941
I'm in a sales organization here and I teach people.

634
00:41:10,941 --> 00:41:17,694
said, yes, sales is relationships and sales isn't trying to sell any sales informing, be
an educator, being a support person.

635
00:41:17,694 --> 00:41:22,075
But all I'm interested in now in selling anything to anybody is truly understanding and
learning.

636
00:41:22,075 --> 00:41:23,695
Like, what do you need?

637
00:41:23,996 --> 00:41:25,946
What, what's going to be best for your outcome?

638
00:41:25,946 --> 00:41:28,877
How truly the thing I have, can it help you?

639
00:41:28,877 --> 00:41:29,668
Will it serve you?

640
00:41:29,668 --> 00:41:31,378
And if so, I'll show you.

641
00:41:31,378 --> 00:41:36,060
Yeah, and we're not selling you what you don't need and then running.

642
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:44,021
No, and it's incredible what happens then because all the walls of the individual, when
you're truly that person, all the walls of that customer or that potential client, they

643
00:41:44,021 --> 00:41:45,212
all go away.

644
00:41:47,689 --> 00:41:48,169
100%.

645
00:41:48,169 --> 00:41:49,090
Yeah.

646
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:49,690
That's it.

647
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:52,030
In fact, it should not be called sales.

648
00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:52,479
Shouldn't be.

649
00:41:52,479 --> 00:41:54,101
What should we name it?

650
00:41:54,101 --> 00:41:55,356
This is new book.

651
00:41:55,584 --> 00:41:56,876
Yeah, good idea.

652
00:41:56,876 --> 00:42:04,109
I've never, never thought about it, but I just realized right now, yeah, we shouldn't be
calling it sales because nobody wants to be sold.

653
00:42:05,433 --> 00:42:06,253
So.

654
00:42:06,253 --> 00:42:08,858
yeah, we should, yeah, we just want someone to help us.

655
00:42:08,858 --> 00:42:17,120
We truly want someone to help us achieve the thing that we either think we need in the
moment that we've set our eyes on to have a best outcome and we could all do.

656
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,547
And sales would be, it's more like need fulfillment, right?

657
00:42:21,547 --> 00:42:26,161
So they need a couch, you know, and you sell chairs while you're not going to sell them a
chair.

658
00:42:26,161 --> 00:42:31,988
But then what you should do is build a network of people that sell couches so you can
refer them there and send them to the thing they need.

659
00:42:31,988 --> 00:42:34,795
And then the guy who sells the couches refers them back.

660
00:42:34,875 --> 00:42:37,537
Well, there's all that that works too, yeah.

661
00:42:37,659 --> 00:42:38,166
Yeah.

662
00:42:38,166 --> 00:42:39,489
The, so how does this link.

663
00:42:39,489 --> 00:42:44,273
Trying to sell them what you got, whether they need it or not.

664
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:46,883
That's insulting actually.

665
00:42:46,883 --> 00:42:48,045
It's a transaction.

666
00:42:48,045 --> 00:42:56,727
we say that, if we say relationships matter, then we need to stop being transactional, not
just in sales and every part of our life with other human beings, with ourselves.

667
00:42:56,727 --> 00:43:00,485
And we can't do it in relationship if we haven't done it with ourselves.

668
00:43:00,485 --> 00:43:00,775
Yeah.

669
00:43:00,775 --> 00:43:01,596
A hundred percent.

670
00:43:01,596 --> 00:43:02,257
yes.

671
00:43:02,257 --> 00:43:05,469
What, you know, with today's world of, mean, I speak to it too.

672
00:43:05,469 --> 00:43:07,369
I'm not nearly as healthy as I should be.

673
00:43:07,369 --> 00:43:13,291
Like I can, I can make that statement and know whether I take the proper actions, but I
know I'm in control.

674
00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:16,682
Like I, I tell people, I don't have any issue of cell.

675
00:43:16,682 --> 00:43:20,809
I look in the mirror and I'm like, that double chin, those extra pounds, man, how it fits.

676
00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:27,231
I know exactly what I could do to alter and change that, but it has to be important
enough.

677
00:43:27,231 --> 00:43:28,103
You have to feel enough.

678
00:43:28,103 --> 00:43:29,615
pain, has to be whatever.

679
00:43:29,615 --> 00:43:36,034
It'll be important if I ever get sick enough and I wish I did, but, I know that it's my
responsibility.

680
00:43:36,596 --> 00:43:37,617
It's no one else's.

681
00:43:37,617 --> 00:43:42,684
And if I don't make the decision to get healthy and eat better, I actually don't even
blame and judge myself.

682
00:43:42,684 --> 00:43:44,115
just know I didn't do it.

683
00:43:44,164 --> 00:43:44,474
Yeah.

684
00:43:44,474 --> 00:43:46,497
But so, but do you know why you don't do it?

685
00:43:46,497 --> 00:43:52,362
Why is it, why why is it there's things you know, you could do that would make quality of
your life better.

686
00:43:52,362 --> 00:43:54,049
Why, why are you not doing it?

687
00:43:54,049 --> 00:43:55,133
I don't know, tell me why.

688
00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:58,131
I can tell you all the reasons why my brain makes it okay I don't.

689
00:43:58,180 --> 00:43:59,700
You're not inspired.

690
00:44:00,161 --> 00:44:01,563
You're not inspired.

691
00:44:01,563 --> 00:44:04,104
Cause what happens when you get inspired.

692
00:44:04,205 --> 00:44:09,269
And I'll tell you in a minute how I learned that when you, when you're inspired, that
frees energy.

693
00:44:09,269 --> 00:44:13,292
And when you have lots of energy, then changing a habit is not that hard.

694
00:44:13,352 --> 00:44:17,516
Or doing what you need to do to get better outcomes that you already know.

695
00:44:17,516 --> 00:44:18,938
You already have the information.

696
00:44:18,938 --> 00:44:20,318
It's not that hard.

697
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:25,503
So I realized that when I was, because I was, was talking about health.

698
00:44:25,779 --> 00:44:27,501
fats was my topic, right?

699
00:44:27,501 --> 00:44:30,863
And we developed methods for making oils with health in mind.

700
00:44:30,863 --> 00:44:36,687
And then we promoted omega-3, omega-6 in the right balance, organic, in glass.

701
00:44:36,687 --> 00:44:38,350
I mean, we did it.

702
00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:44,214
It was like anally OCD, but unbelievably good for health because of it, right?

703
00:44:45,095 --> 00:44:48,748
And I realized there were people like me and first I saw it in other people.

704
00:44:48,748 --> 00:44:50,707
And then it was like, yeah, I'm like that too.

705
00:44:50,707 --> 00:45:03,747
They had, went to every health guru that came to town and they took copious notes and they
had stacks of writings from those lectures, like 18 inches tall, right?

706
00:45:04,107 --> 00:45:07,487
And they were, and they weren't putting anything into practice.

707
00:45:08,327 --> 00:45:10,287
And I started thinking about why is it?

708
00:45:10,287 --> 00:45:14,967
And it's like, okay, well, why is it that I don't do some of the things I know I could do?

709
00:45:15,307 --> 00:45:18,507
And I realized it's because they're not inspired.

710
00:45:18,507 --> 00:45:20,285
They got all the information.

711
00:45:20,285 --> 00:45:21,706
but they ain't got the energy.

712
00:45:21,706 --> 00:45:24,038
Inspiration frees energy.

713
00:45:24,118 --> 00:45:29,983
And when you get inspired and it's like, when I'm saying, my God, my life is so
incredible.

714
00:45:30,104 --> 00:45:33,326
I'm gonna do whatever it takes to be here as long as I can.

715
00:45:33,787 --> 00:45:34,648
Right?

716
00:45:34,648 --> 00:45:36,729
And I know what that requires.

717
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:37,970
Right?

718
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:42,830
But if I'm like kind of depressed and like, shit, everything's too much work.

719
00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:44,449
just give me the hamburger.

720
00:45:44,449 --> 00:45:45,899
Whatever it is, right?

721
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:56,784
And if I get really depressed, I will destroy my own body because I just can't stand
living with so little energy.

722
00:45:56,864 --> 00:46:01,746
So it's literally the level of energy comes from the degree of inspiration.

723
00:46:01,746 --> 00:46:11,990
And the degree of inspiration comes from if you're in touch with the power, that solar
energy fraction that is your life, that's your power.

724
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:14,269
That's super powerful.

725
00:46:14,269 --> 00:46:16,189
Everything does everything in the body.

726
00:46:16,189 --> 00:46:17,740
It does it perfectly.

727
00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:23,121
Unless you interfere with your mind or you interfere with garbage that you eat, you know?

728
00:46:23,121 --> 00:46:24,452
So it runs that show.

729
00:46:24,452 --> 00:46:27,123
When you're in touch with that, you have power.

730
00:46:27,123 --> 00:46:28,763
You're in your power.

731
00:46:28,763 --> 00:46:33,404
When you're in your power, discipline is not that hard.

732
00:46:33,904 --> 00:46:36,295
Because in fact, you're not doing it out of discipline.

733
00:46:36,295 --> 00:46:38,225
You're doing it out of inspiration.

734
00:46:38,986 --> 00:46:42,257
And the thing is when you have enough pain, you'll make changes.

735
00:46:42,257 --> 00:46:44,167
But when the pain goes, you stop.

736
00:46:45,013 --> 00:46:58,452
And even Tony will say things like, well, 95 % of the people make change out of pain, but
it's usually not lasting because only 5 % of the population makes changes out of chasing a

737
00:46:58,452 --> 00:46:59,372
vision.

738
00:46:59,853 --> 00:47:03,985
And it's always more fun to chase a vision than to run away from pain.

739
00:47:04,311 --> 00:47:07,132
Where do you think inspiration, where does it come from?

740
00:47:07,903 --> 00:47:10,683
It's the natural shine of life into the world.

741
00:47:12,587 --> 00:47:17,629
And the more in touch you are, the more you are one with that energy that is your life.

742
00:47:17,629 --> 00:47:25,912
Like for instance, again, going back to the New Testament, it says, if your eye is single,
your whole body will be filled with light.

743
00:47:26,333 --> 00:47:27,573
Close your eyes.

744
00:47:27,854 --> 00:47:28,974
Close your eyes.

745
00:47:29,467 --> 00:47:31,815
Do you see light throughout your whole body?

746
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,261
Now that we're talking about it, do.

747
00:47:36,075 --> 00:47:37,882
No, now you're imagining it.

748
00:47:37,882 --> 00:47:42,739
No, but the point is this, mostly when you close your eyes, don't see much light.

749
00:47:42,807 --> 00:47:43,647
Yeah, I saw it.

750
00:47:43,647 --> 00:47:45,247
I feel like it's there right here.

751
00:47:45,247 --> 00:47:46,187
Yeah.

752
00:47:47,087 --> 00:47:47,628
Yeah.

753
00:47:47,628 --> 00:47:54,313
And the deeper you go into that light, the more energy you have, the more clarity you also
have.

754
00:47:54,374 --> 00:47:59,019
But the more energy you have and the easier it becomes to do what needs to be done.

755
00:47:59,019 --> 00:48:09,309
And whether you're talking about doing it for your health or you're doing it about saving
the planet from human idiocy, right?

756
00:48:09,309 --> 00:48:11,010
It's all on the same level.

757
00:48:11,271 --> 00:48:14,149
But you gotta be in your peace and you gotta be in that love.

758
00:48:14,149 --> 00:48:22,069
and you've got to be in that light and you need to do the homework and you cannot fix what
needs to be fixed on the planet if you don't do that for.

759
00:48:22,289 --> 00:48:30,862
Yeah, correct me with a, you know, I have a, I, I'd taken a layman's approach a lot of
times to nothing, you know, from a true psychological perspective, the deep dives you've

760
00:48:30,862 --> 00:48:33,152
done, you've studied the philosophers more than I have.

761
00:48:33,152 --> 00:48:43,735
I just have enough to get my brain fired, fired up, you know, but so often we talk about
this world trauma and this word trauma now in society.

762
00:48:44,415 --> 00:48:51,487
And so I don't want to disassociate from these traumatic things that sometimes do happen
that

763
00:48:51,523 --> 00:48:54,113
People didn't, they didn't try to bring them on themselves.

764
00:48:54,113 --> 00:48:59,656
There's a whole debate around this, but something that maybe an adult did to a kid and
that lives throughout your life.

765
00:48:59,916 --> 00:49:04,038
What I want to say to, you know, where I come from, people have way more difficult things.

766
00:49:04,038 --> 00:49:13,444
We have this alcoholic father and my, my siblings are still affected by that 20 something
years after he died.

767
00:49:13,444 --> 00:49:15,624
And I made a statement to them.

768
00:49:17,025 --> 00:49:20,066
Some of them like 15 years ago, I said, you all.

769
00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:27,576
How long are you going to allow him from his grave to dictate the outcome of your life?

770
00:49:29,286 --> 00:49:30,151
It's not that it...

771
00:49:30,151 --> 00:49:34,028
That makes it like, that makes it sound like they're doing something kind of stupid,

772
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,401
And so I use that because that's my own personal experience.

773
00:49:38,401 --> 00:49:41,483
think the world lets me get away with being tough and hard about it.

774
00:49:41,483 --> 00:49:46,957
But where does your brain go with people that they're really stuck in that and they're
still affected by the things that happen to them?

775
00:49:46,957 --> 00:49:47,487
Because what else?

776
00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:47,847
What else?

777
00:49:47,847 --> 00:49:51,600
tell people, I'm like, guys, I didn't do however he treated us.

778
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,670
I didn't do that to me.

779
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:53,770
He did.

780
00:49:53,871 --> 00:49:58,193
And honestly, he did it to me and us because he was so flawed individually as a human.

781
00:49:58,193 --> 00:49:59,634
He couldn't come out of this.

782
00:49:59,634 --> 00:50:00,909
I'm no part of what that

783
00:50:00,909 --> 00:50:01,574
was.

784
00:50:01,574 --> 00:50:02,398
Yeah.

785
00:50:04,089 --> 00:50:04,772
So what do we do?

786
00:50:04,772 --> 00:50:05,780
what, right.

787
00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:08,146
Let me talk about your father.

788
00:50:08,146 --> 00:50:10,322
Your father was an alcoholic, you said, right?

789
00:50:10,322 --> 00:50:10,482
yeah.

790
00:50:10,482 --> 00:50:11,694
Was he violent?

791
00:50:11,948 --> 00:50:12,890
No, not at all.

792
00:50:12,890 --> 00:50:15,895
didn't have any of the thing, just not present.

793
00:50:15,895 --> 00:50:17,979
family was really poor because of it.

794
00:50:17,979 --> 00:50:20,102
My mom had to step in and do all this stuff.

795
00:50:20,102 --> 00:50:21,665
He just was literally.

796
00:50:21,665 --> 00:50:23,567
Non-existent because of it.

797
00:50:23,567 --> 00:50:26,068
So he was drunk all the time, pretty much.

798
00:50:26,068 --> 00:50:26,540
the time.

799
00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:31,813
And what's funny from his dad and then his grant all the and it's like, Hey, yeah.

800
00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:32,765
There's the content.

801
00:50:32,765 --> 00:50:34,563
alcoholism in the family?

802
00:50:34,563 --> 00:50:37,379
Yes, I could go deep on this subject.

803
00:50:37,379 --> 00:50:40,981
No, no, but the point is, it would apply.

804
00:50:40,981 --> 00:50:43,322
You could take it as far back as you want.

805
00:50:43,322 --> 00:50:44,762
You know, it would apply.

806
00:50:44,762 --> 00:50:58,968
This guy had the peace inside of him that I talk about, had the kingdom of heaven within
him that Jesus talked about and said we should put first, had the love in him, had

807
00:50:58,968 --> 00:51:02,700
everything in him that is in a human being by nature.

808
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:04,510
Right?

809
00:51:04,611 --> 00:51:06,271
Was he in touch with it?

810
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:19,534
Probably not, because if alcohol is your best experience, then you're missing a better
experience that actually is beyond alcohol, beyond habits, and is built into your nature.

811
00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,614
So, even if he was violent and everybody got traumatized,

812
00:51:24,614 --> 00:51:25,412
Whatcha watching?

813
00:51:25,412 --> 00:51:26,305
through that.

814
00:51:26,418 --> 00:51:37,864
Sure, yeah, So in every human being who is a perpetrator of trauma is a peace and a love
that they're not in touch with.

815
00:51:37,864 --> 00:51:40,664
It's almost like by definition, right?

816
00:51:40,685 --> 00:51:49,368
And everyone who has trauma imposed on them has peace and love within them that is not
affected by the trauma.

817
00:51:49,809 --> 00:51:50,569
Okay?

818
00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:53,480
And the cure of trauma, so,

819
00:51:53,596 --> 00:51:55,587
Let me back up a little bit.

820
00:51:55,827 --> 00:52:02,771
There are the peace, the love, the inspiration and the infinite awareness that is the big
picture.

821
00:52:02,971 --> 00:52:05,292
Those four never change.

822
00:52:05,673 --> 00:52:06,753
Okay.

823
00:52:06,793 --> 00:52:15,218
But then between those, you have the body, the mind, emotions, other people, the natural
environment.

824
00:52:15,218 --> 00:52:16,779
They're always changing.

825
00:52:16,779 --> 00:52:19,340
Leaves go up and the leaves fall down.

826
00:52:19,726 --> 00:52:23,198
The buds pop and then the cherries drop, right?

827
00:52:23,198 --> 00:52:25,942
So those are always changing.

828
00:52:25,942 --> 00:52:30,267
In the world of change, you cannot stop the change.

829
00:52:30,408 --> 00:52:32,670
You may not like the change.

830
00:52:34,804 --> 00:52:40,796
But if you try to make the change not change, then you're gonna drive yourself nuts, okay?

831
00:52:41,216 --> 00:52:47,638
But in this world of change, there is something in you that doesn't change.

832
00:52:47,638 --> 00:52:58,661
And if you put your focus, like when you want constancy in your life, or you want
stability in your life, or you want calmness in your life, or you want relaxation in your

833
00:52:58,661 --> 00:53:03,452
life, go to the place in you where they already live.

834
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:20,869
And the way to deal with trauma, you you can be traumatized once and then spend 20 years
every day traumatizing yourself through your mind by remembering that, by always focusing

835
00:53:20,869 --> 00:53:21,530
on it.

836
00:53:21,530 --> 00:53:23,770
And there is some payoff for doing that.

837
00:53:23,770 --> 00:53:26,090
That's one of the reasons why people do that.

838
00:53:26,090 --> 00:53:31,778
Because people give you a shit that you then don't have to work for.

839
00:53:31,818 --> 00:53:35,681
So there's an aspect of that, but that's also not true for everybody.

840
00:53:35,681 --> 00:53:48,893
But the cure for trauma is when you find your way back to bringing your focus into the
magnificence and the awesomeness of your own existence.

841
00:53:49,154 --> 00:53:59,002
Because then if you know how to do that and you may have to learn and it may take some
practice, but then you become free of the trauma,

842
00:53:59,066 --> 00:54:04,749
Whereas sometimes 20 years later, whoever did some bad thing to you still owns you.

843
00:54:05,550 --> 00:54:16,497
Why are you, and you're victimizing yourself every time you go there, when you could be
going to a place that was not affected by the trauma.

844
00:54:16,557 --> 00:54:24,172
So that's not, I'm not minimizing that there are things that happened that should have
never happened and that they were really painful.

845
00:54:24,264 --> 00:54:29,296
and that we got stuck in them because we didn't know what to do in those situations.

846
00:54:29,296 --> 00:54:30,657
That's real.

847
00:54:31,657 --> 00:54:41,942
But at the same time in every human being who's been traumatized, there is a magnificence
that was not affected by any of that stuff.

848
00:54:42,142 --> 00:54:51,656
So how about, you know, so the end of trauma ends where that shift in focus is effectively
made.

849
00:54:51,854 --> 00:54:55,014
And it might, you might have to go and learn some technique.

850
00:54:55,154 --> 00:54:57,454
You know, I, I came out of a war.

851
00:54:57,454 --> 00:54:59,854
had lots of trauma in my life, right.

852
00:55:00,694 --> 00:55:05,414
But I had some very powerful experiences because I was looking for answers.

853
00:55:05,414 --> 00:55:12,334
Cause I said, God, there must be a better way to live than the way that I, know, I was a
kid, I was a war baby.

854
00:55:12,334 --> 00:55:14,914
Then I was a refugee, then I was an orphan.

855
00:55:15,294 --> 00:55:15,654
Right.

856
00:55:15,654 --> 00:55:18,114
And it was like, God, there must be a better way to live than that.

857
00:55:18,114 --> 00:55:19,494
I'm going to find out how.

858
00:55:19,494 --> 00:55:22,174
And so my whole life has been about.

859
00:55:22,304 --> 00:55:28,318
finding out how can we, mean, 8 billion people could be living way better than you do.

860
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,726
What do you think is happening with a lot of these-

861
00:55:30,726 --> 00:55:35,006
and what's, and it's in them and they need to find it within them.

862
00:55:35,006 --> 00:55:39,466
And I got to a point where I said, okay, I know there's a perfection within me.

863
00:55:39,466 --> 00:55:44,826
know I'm not connected to it and I need to find someone who can show me step because I'm
not getting it.

864
00:55:44,826 --> 00:55:47,186
I'm trying, but I'm not getting it.

865
00:55:47,186 --> 00:55:55,826
And I ran into somebody who showed me how to do a practice of bringing focus in said, do
it once one hour every day.

866
00:55:56,606 --> 00:55:59,206
And I've been doing that for 53 years now.

867
00:55:59,586 --> 00:56:00,966
Is that a book?

868
00:56:01,295 --> 00:56:07,240
He has a book, it's called, Hear Yourself, sorry, How to Find Peace in a Noisy World.

869
00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:09,682
His name is Prem Rawat.

870
00:56:09,863 --> 00:56:14,767
I met him when he was six, when he was 14 and I was 30.

871
00:56:14,767 --> 00:56:18,089
And he just celebrated his 68th birthday.

872
00:56:18,089 --> 00:56:21,892
And he just goes around the world talking about peace and helping people.

873
00:56:21,892 --> 00:56:26,317
they want to, if they want to know how to do a practice, he teaches them a practice.

874
00:56:26,317 --> 00:56:26,802
And

875
00:56:26,802 --> 00:56:31,226
Absolutely works, but the only reason it works is because the piece is already in there.

876
00:56:32,448 --> 00:56:32,829
Right?

877
00:56:32,829 --> 00:56:41,658
So it's just, do you, how do you just like make it a little easier for your focus to go
inside instead of always going outside, chasing everything that's changing.

878
00:56:42,122 --> 00:56:48,989
What do you think's happening with a lot of these guys that are coming back with all this
trauma from modern war and this Ayahuasca journey?

879
00:56:48,989 --> 00:56:57,526
you, have you dug deep into this with some of these guys and how they go on this retreat
and these weekends and they come back and they just, what's the research?

880
00:56:57,526 --> 00:56:58,517
Have you gone deep into it?

881
00:56:58,517 --> 00:56:59,427
What's happening there?

882
00:56:59,427 --> 00:57:03,050
I've never done ayahuasca because, you know, I'm 83.

883
00:57:03,050 --> 00:57:06,523
The ayahuasca was not around when I was a kid.

884
00:57:06,523 --> 00:57:10,937
I did psilocybin and I did mescaline and I did LSD.

885
00:57:10,937 --> 00:57:22,076
And I just saw something yesterday or day before that talks about what psychedelics do is
they turn up the volume.

886
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:35,127
on the part of the brain where the good feelings live and turns down the parts of the
brain where anxiety and overwhelm and confusion live.

887
00:57:35,128 --> 00:57:37,369
And they literally change brain function.

888
00:57:37,369 --> 00:57:41,032
They also make new connections between brain cells.

889
00:57:42,133 --> 00:57:49,579
And so there, and I know that my, actually in 1966,

890
00:57:49,807 --> 00:57:59,338
So this is a long time ago, 1966, I took LSD, was Sandos LSD from the pharmaceutical
company, the high grade stuff, 60 micrograms.

891
00:57:59,338 --> 00:58:00,538
It's a very small dose.

892
00:58:00,538 --> 00:58:03,609
The heroic doses were 600 micrograms.

893
00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:12,714
I took 60 and I rolled on the floor laughing and the tears were running down my cheeks and
I was laughing in time to Mozart music.

894
00:58:12,934 --> 00:58:17,057
And it struck me as the funniest thing I'd ever come across that

895
00:58:17,057 --> 00:58:25,043
Everything I was so studiously trying to master on the outside was already beautifully
present on the inside.

896
00:58:25,544 --> 00:58:27,606
That was the biggest joke.

897
00:58:27,606 --> 00:58:33,951
I mean, and that took, that literally melted the door off my war child personality.

898
00:58:34,011 --> 00:58:35,573
Huge door opener.

899
00:58:35,573 --> 00:58:41,520
So used properly, they want to be, you want to use it because they're powerful, right?

900
00:58:41,961 --> 00:58:44,543
So it helps to have some guidance.

901
00:58:44,543 --> 00:58:57,219
through those journeys by people who know what the journey is and by people who know what
psychology is and how thinking works and who know something more are able to get into the

902
00:58:57,219 --> 00:58:58,811
calmer part of human nature.

903
00:58:58,811 --> 00:59:03,313
It can be very, very powerful, very, very helpful.

904
00:59:03,313 --> 00:59:10,128
If I was the dictator of the world, the benevolent dictator of the world, I would
definitely make that available.

905
00:59:10,128 --> 00:59:19,262
You know, I wouldn't be throwing it around in the streets, but I would make it, I would
create the settings and I would make it available certainly for trauma, certainly for

906
00:59:19,262 --> 00:59:23,564
PTSD, but also depression, even end of life anxiety.

907
00:59:23,564 --> 00:59:35,018
I think it has major applications and gets better results than any of the mood altering
pharmaceutical drugs.

908
00:59:35,018 --> 00:59:48,784
with all of their stupid side effects, including the serotonin reuptake inhibitors that
are associated with increased suicide and increased homicide ideation.

909
00:59:48,784 --> 00:59:52,083
yeah, and my point is this.

910
00:59:52,284 --> 00:59:58,430
It's not like, don't just damn it because you don't wanna see what it is.

911
00:59:58,430 --> 00:59:59,911
Find out what it is.

912
01:00:00,272 --> 01:00:01,406
Find out how it works.

913
01:00:01,406 --> 01:00:03,407
What are the goals?

914
01:00:03,707 --> 01:00:13,973
What is it take to, you know, and I've seen people like their lives literally changed, got
completely reset, mind it, mind it.

915
01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:15,634
And then I stopped doing it.

916
01:00:15,634 --> 01:00:25,177
In the end, you wanna do the homework, you wanna do the practice, you wanna come back to
yourself, come back to yourself, come back to yourself and go deeper and deeper and deeper

917
01:00:25,238 --> 01:00:27,937
because you're gonna discover that it's bottomlessly.

918
01:00:27,937 --> 01:00:36,140
beautiful to be alive and you don't need anything to go there once you know how to go
there.

919
01:00:36,241 --> 01:00:41,429
But I was certainly LSD was a door opener for me in that direction.

920
01:00:41,911 --> 01:00:42,429
Yeah.

921
01:00:42,429 --> 01:00:45,590
If you're right, we tend to beginning, we've been doing this in almost an hour now.

922
01:00:45,590 --> 01:00:47,281
We could go for three or four.

923
01:00:47,281 --> 01:00:49,735
That's not a no problem at all.

924
01:00:49,777 --> 01:00:52,773
Yeah, there's a but you know what, you know what I really like about you?

925
01:00:52,773 --> 01:00:58,995
You're, you're very grounded and you ask really simple grounded questions.

926
01:01:00,363 --> 01:01:05,026
I think with talking about that, no judgment, I think the agendas went away too.

927
01:01:06,187 --> 01:01:06,587
Right.

928
01:01:06,587 --> 01:01:10,800
It's whatever moment you're in seek to understand what's happening.

929
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,871
What's the origin?

930
01:01:11,871 --> 01:01:16,090
What are the unlocks right without being threatened by whatever the response is.

931
01:01:16,090 --> 01:01:16,931
Yeah.

932
01:01:16,931 --> 01:01:17,851
Yeah.

933
01:01:18,031 --> 01:01:26,958
I, I, I, I tell you a was, you know, after I stopped doing psychedelics because it can be
hard on your body.

934
01:01:26,958 --> 01:01:28,389
And I said, I get one body.

935
01:01:28,389 --> 01:01:29,269
need to look after it.

936
01:01:29,269 --> 01:01:32,101
So I, I'm not doing any for two, two years.

937
01:01:32,562 --> 01:01:37,495
And as, but then it's like, okay, but I'm still trying to figure out who I am and what
should I do?

938
01:01:37,495 --> 01:01:37,835
You know?

939
01:01:37,835 --> 01:01:41,087
So like, and so I decided.

940
01:01:41,761 --> 01:01:48,101
At one point I didn't do any psychedelics, so I decided to get the Red Letter edition.

941
01:01:48,101 --> 01:01:49,647
You know what that is?

942
01:01:49,647 --> 01:01:51,801
No, tell me though, I think I should know, I hear it.

943
01:01:51,801 --> 01:01:54,794
So it's a King James version of the Bible.

944
01:01:54,794 --> 01:02:01,518
Everything Jesus said is printed in red ink and everything else in that Bible is printed
in black ink.

945
01:02:01,679 --> 01:02:12,926
And I got it because one day it occurred to me, well, if I was to model myself after
somebody that I know from history or that I have any sense of, who would that be?

946
01:02:12,926 --> 01:02:16,550
said, you know, I think Jesus would be cool.

947
01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:18,515
And then I started reading,

948
01:02:18,515 --> 01:02:23,807
And it says, you know, in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the
word was God.

949
01:02:23,807 --> 01:02:25,168
So like, okay, well, wow.

950
01:02:25,168 --> 01:02:27,629
Where was he coming from to say that?

951
01:02:27,629 --> 01:02:28,269
Right?

952
01:02:28,269 --> 01:02:34,271
And then it goes on and this, word became flesh and dwelt amongst us full of grace and
truth.

953
01:02:34,431 --> 01:02:37,451
And the hair goes up on the back of my head when I say that.

954
01:02:38,032 --> 01:02:44,254
And I say, okay, so you don't write poetry without feeling, right?

955
01:02:44,254 --> 01:02:45,920
Feeling inspires poetry.

956
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,631
So I said, okay, I want to know what John felt that inspired that poetry.

957
01:02:51,051 --> 01:02:55,194
And then like maybe a week or two later, I said, no, why am I doing John?

958
01:02:55,194 --> 01:02:56,144
I'm interested in Jesus.

959
01:02:56,144 --> 01:03:02,355
I want to know what Jesus felt that made him live like he did and say what he did and do
what he did.

960
01:03:03,216 --> 01:03:06,387
And nobody said it wasn't possible, but of course, how do you do it?

961
01:03:06,387 --> 01:03:09,658
I'm 20, I'm 2000 years late to the party.

962
01:03:09,658 --> 01:03:14,829
So I got the Red Letter edition, focused on what he said, didn't ask anybody interpreted.

963
01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:19,580
to interpret it for me, but read it and said, okay, what does that mean?

964
01:03:19,580 --> 01:03:21,861
know, kingdom of heaven was in you, right?

965
01:03:23,101 --> 01:03:26,462
What you do to the one of the least of these that you do to me.

966
01:03:26,572 --> 01:03:28,333
King, he's in everybody.

967
01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:29,063
yeah, well, that's true.

968
01:03:29,063 --> 01:03:30,664
He's in the kingdom of heaven anyway.

969
01:03:30,664 --> 01:03:38,246
that's so, so, and I started going through it and putting little things to the test and
had just had a magical summer.

970
01:03:38,926 --> 01:03:40,426
And then this group came along.

971
01:03:40,426 --> 01:03:43,317
They were called themselves the Jesus People's Army.

972
01:03:43,811 --> 01:03:51,410
should have been a warning to me, because army was not a good word in my lexicon, but I
missed the cue, because I thought we're all gonna get together.

973
01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:59,630
They're all trying to figure out just like I am, and we're all gonna share our stories,
and we're all gonna talk about the magical things that have happened, and we're all gonna

974
01:03:59,630 --> 01:04:01,321
leave the evening enriched.

975
01:04:02,851 --> 01:04:10,525
So I went to their coffee house and I sat down at a chair and immediately this guy swooped
back next to me in the chair next to me.

976
01:04:10,525 --> 01:04:14,457
That should have been my second warning and I missed that one too.

977
01:04:14,777 --> 01:04:16,088
I didn't introduce myself.

978
01:04:16,088 --> 01:04:20,879
I just looked him in the eyes and I said, it must be possible to see God and live.

979
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:28,463
Cause we were told as kids, know, God loves you unconditionally, makes a whole world for
you and keeps you alive when you're asleep.

980
01:04:28,463 --> 01:04:30,403
But if you look at him, he kills you.

981
01:04:30,524 --> 01:04:31,484
That's like.

982
01:04:31,533 --> 01:04:32,815
How's that supposed to work?

983
01:04:32,815 --> 01:04:39,701
So I said that to him and I thought this would be the beginning of a beautiful deep
conversation about a really deep subject.

984
01:04:39,761 --> 01:04:41,944
Well, he totally wasn't.

985
01:04:41,944 --> 01:04:51,733
He jumped out of his chair and he's bouncing around the room with his arms wildly flying
around his head, screaming at me at the top of his lungs.

986
01:04:51,733 --> 01:04:55,356
You're from the devil, you're from the antichrist, get out!

987
01:04:56,750 --> 01:05:05,983
So I go slinking out and standing on the sidewalk and I'm saying, well, haven't seen God,
maybe I'm supposed to not ask a question like that.

988
01:05:05,983 --> 01:05:11,124
You know, cause we were also told as kids, there are certain questions you're not supposed
to ask.

989
01:05:11,244 --> 01:05:17,447
They wouldn't tell us what those questions were because knowing me, instead of told me
what question not to ask, I would have asked them anyway.

990
01:05:17,447 --> 01:05:20,957
You know, cause I was always, I was always, I was like that, right?

991
01:05:20,957 --> 01:05:21,757
And.

992
01:05:23,131 --> 01:05:28,683
And then I got really confused and really kind of desperate.

993
01:05:28,683 --> 01:05:33,945
And it was just this feeling of, I'm not like, that stupid guy is like, no, I just really
want to know.

994
01:05:33,945 --> 01:05:36,976
I just really want to know what is true here.

995
01:05:36,976 --> 01:05:37,806
Right.

996
01:05:37,866 --> 01:05:39,708
So I hitchhiked out into nature.

997
01:05:39,708 --> 01:05:43,709
That's where I used to go to clear my head when things got really wild.

998
01:05:43,709 --> 01:05:51,691
And I ended up on a West coast beach, completely deserted, just me, the sand, the logs,
the water and the sky.

999
01:05:51,963 --> 01:05:55,243
And somebody had draped plastic over a log, made a little dwelling.

1000
01:05:55,243 --> 01:05:58,703
You had to crawl in it, but if it rained, it wasn't going to rain on me.

1001
01:05:58,903 --> 01:06:01,363
So said, okay, there's my hotel for the weekend.

1002
01:06:01,843 --> 01:06:10,423
And I go, I crawled in, fell asleep and in the middle of the night, woke bolt upright from
dead asleep.

1003
01:06:10,423 --> 01:06:13,023
And there was a being made of light.

1004
01:06:14,063 --> 01:06:16,403
Wasn't, couldn't tell if it was male or female.

1005
01:06:16,403 --> 01:06:18,263
Couldn't tell if it was old or young.

1006
01:06:18,263 --> 01:06:19,103
Didn't have wings.

1007
01:06:19,103 --> 01:06:20,203
So wasn't an angel.

1008
01:06:20,203 --> 01:06:22,259
It's just like me thinking about it, right?

1009
01:06:23,065 --> 01:06:30,920
And that being embodied a message, didn't say anything, didn't have a label on it, it was
just there.

1010
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:37,805
And I could put words to the message and the message was, I am come not to judge, but to
love.

1011
01:06:38,126 --> 01:06:40,037
I am come not to judge, but to love.

1012
01:06:40,037 --> 01:06:42,908
And what triggered that was you talking about not judging.

1013
01:06:43,889 --> 01:06:47,725
And instantly my confusion evaporated.

1014
01:06:47,725 --> 01:06:52,446
Instantly, I have never had a question about what the message of the master was.

1015
01:06:53,847 --> 01:06:56,987
I am come not to judge, but to love.

1016
01:06:57,028 --> 01:06:57,928
Wow.

1017
01:06:57,988 --> 01:07:04,450
And I don't know, I don't know a more succinct summary of the message of the master.

1018
01:07:04,450 --> 01:07:08,051
So that was their message to humanity.

1019
01:07:08,051 --> 01:07:10,771
But then I started thinking, it's like, well, what is that?

1020
01:07:10,771 --> 01:07:14,792
Okay, well I was on a, you know, chasing Christ.

1021
01:07:14,832 --> 01:07:17,731
So was that Christ or was that life?

1022
01:07:17,731 --> 01:07:22,004
or was that spirit or was that soul?

1023
01:07:22,461 --> 01:07:25,686
And I came to the conclusion that they're all the same.

1024
01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:31,749
And it's true because the master in your body is life.

1025
01:07:33,539 --> 01:07:40,497
And the message of life to your body, I am come not to judge, but to love.

1026
01:07:40,959 --> 01:07:43,101
And life is perfect health.

1027
01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:52,594
And life runs the entire show and life is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient in your
body.

1028
01:07:53,235 --> 01:07:58,139
It's the master in of, for, and throughout your body.

1029
01:07:58,139 --> 01:08:00,831
that was the, yeah.

1030
01:08:00,831 --> 01:08:06,534
And, and, and that also was the culmination of what I had tried to find out in university
studies.

1031
01:08:06,534 --> 01:08:11,648
Cause I went into biology cause I wanted to know what life is, but we only studied form
and function.

1032
01:08:11,648 --> 01:08:13,669
We never got a handle on life.

1033
01:08:13,859 --> 01:08:16,352
I did psychology study of soul.

1034
01:08:16,352 --> 01:08:19,194
We studied thoughts, beliefs, and emotions.

1035
01:08:19,194 --> 01:08:20,736
Never studied soul.

1036
01:08:20,736 --> 01:08:23,939
I went into medicine to study health because they call that healthcare.

1037
01:08:23,939 --> 01:08:25,780
We only studied disease.

1038
01:08:26,001 --> 01:08:38,703
And there was the, in that one, in that one appearance was the answer to the question that
I had been asking from way back about what is the essential nature of things.

1039
01:08:40,327 --> 01:08:41,688
So anyway, that was.

1040
01:08:42,397 --> 01:08:43,617
No, thank you for sharing that.

1041
01:08:43,617 --> 01:08:53,197
Ever since that moment, it seems like I'm assuming everything you've done, you've poured
in that experience, that perspective, you've continued to move forward and grow.

1042
01:08:53,197 --> 01:08:56,597
Books you've written, the stages you've been on, companies you've started.

1043
01:08:56,597 --> 01:08:59,477
It seems like it's always been with that nature and that spirit.

1044
01:08:59,677 --> 01:09:03,717
I've, yeah, that completely reset my life.

1045
01:09:04,077 --> 01:09:07,397
And, but I didn't tell anybody for 31 years.

1046
01:09:07,505 --> 01:09:11,081
Yeah, well sometimes you gotta do things in the dark until they're ready to come to life.

1047
01:09:11,081 --> 01:09:18,186
Yeah, because, because it was my question and my answer, and there was nothing in that
experience that said go and tell the world.

1048
01:09:18,467 --> 01:09:22,490
And it wasn't until 9-11.

1049
01:09:22,490 --> 01:09:28,193
9-11, my take home was discontent people will always spread discontent.

1050
01:09:28,794 --> 01:09:37,951
And if people who know what contentment is, and I'm one of the people who claims to know
that if we don't spread contentment faster than they spread discontent, guess where we're

1051
01:09:37,951 --> 01:09:38,701
headed?

1052
01:09:39,631 --> 01:09:45,494
And so then I started, so that was 2001, I started to think about, so how do I talk about
this?

1053
01:09:45,494 --> 01:09:54,766
Because I had the experience, but how do you talk about something like that and not make
it, you know, another formula that doesn't work?

1054
01:09:54,766 --> 01:10:04,780
But how do you actually talk about it live and in a way that maybe people will recognize
there's something maybe in that direction for them.

1055
01:10:06,126 --> 01:10:13,833
that, you know, whether it's trauma they're dealing with or whether it's, you know, vision
they're looking for, whatever it is.

1056
01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:15,875
So then, so now it's become part of it.

1057
01:10:15,875 --> 01:10:31,039
And then on that, on that building, if total, you know, a field of total health based in
nature and human nature and a field of human nature that can be studied and learned and

1058
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:32,530
should be part of the

1059
01:10:32,747 --> 01:10:43,035
The central part of the curriculum starting in grade school seems like it really makes
sense because like I said, we could just all be living way better than

1060
01:10:43,743 --> 01:10:46,766
Where does contentment, does it some sit somewhere by itself?

1061
01:10:46,766 --> 01:10:56,187
Because in my mind of all these goals and, accomplishments I want for life and, true, even
if you want to help other people live a better life and, lead them more to a path that's

1062
01:10:56,187 --> 01:10:56,518
gonna.

1063
01:10:56,518 --> 01:11:01,082
It's like, well, you can't just stay in contentment for where currently where you are.

1064
01:11:01,543 --> 01:11:05,827
So where does contentment sit with productivity with impacting the world?

1065
01:11:05,827 --> 01:11:06,972
Where does that sit?

1066
01:11:06,972 --> 01:11:08,233
Yes, you can.

1067
01:11:09,254 --> 01:11:10,285
You could be content.

1068
01:11:10,285 --> 01:11:19,662
I could be content and because contentment and peace and calmness and tranquility and
equanimity, it's all the same.

1069
01:11:20,123 --> 01:11:26,668
And it's an experience and that experience does not depend on your doing other than
bringing your focus inside.

1070
01:11:26,949 --> 01:11:29,161
So there's, guess you could call that a doing, right?

1071
01:11:29,161 --> 01:11:32,514
You move your focus, right?

1072
01:11:32,514 --> 01:11:35,566
And that contentment is unconditional.

1073
01:11:36,006 --> 01:11:41,217
You experience it because it's there, not because you did something.

1074
01:11:41,438 --> 01:11:48,489
When you're helping people, you get contentment, but it's short because it's conditional,
right?

1075
01:11:48,489 --> 01:11:50,160
And then you're not helping somebody.

1076
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,341
Then you got to say, okay, I need to help somebody else because I want to feel some more
contentment.

1077
01:11:54,381 --> 01:12:02,363
But it's better if you get your contentment by going to the place where it always is
within you.

1078
01:12:02,363 --> 01:12:05,540
And then you go out and you help people because it's

1079
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:11,844
in natural expression rather than let me help some people so I can feel content.

1080
01:12:11,844 --> 01:12:13,225
Cause that's selfish.

1081
01:12:13,225 --> 01:12:15,507
And that means you haven't done the homework.

1082
01:12:15,747 --> 01:12:16,037
Right?

1083
01:12:16,037 --> 01:12:26,095
Cause if you need to help people to find, to get to heaven, or you need to do certain
things to get a thing, that's because you haven't done the homework yet.

1084
01:12:26,095 --> 01:12:28,516
You are, it's not like you haven't done the homework.

1085
01:12:28,516 --> 01:12:34,290
It's like you, you need to do more homework to get to a place where love,

1086
01:12:34,817 --> 01:12:37,054
Contentment is who you are.

1087
01:12:37,054 --> 01:12:39,782
And helpfulness is who you are.

1088
01:12:39,782 --> 01:12:42,076
And it's just a natural expression.

1089
01:12:42,958 --> 01:12:45,219
Throw something out here I've never shared on the podcast.

1090
01:12:45,219 --> 01:12:48,832
have all these conversations about where my mind's arrived in life.

1091
01:12:48,832 --> 01:12:54,396
And when you're talking politics and religion, that sets off a lot of people, but this
isn't in any one of those areas.

1092
01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:56,450
Please, let's do it.

1093
01:12:56,450 --> 01:13:08,492
I've made this statement to a few people that the idea of what's necessary here on earth
to get to heaven is the most selfish perspective idea I've ever heard.

1094
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:13,411
Yeah, because we already live in heaven on earth.

1095
01:13:13,818 --> 01:13:19,414
And we're supposedly only doing the things here to make sure we get there.

1096
01:13:19,494 --> 01:13:21,141
Yeah, well, that's selfish.

1097
01:13:21,170 --> 01:13:22,050
That's it.

1098
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:26,062
idea of heaven is the most selfish idea I've ever heard of in my life.

1099
01:13:26,062 --> 01:13:30,354
And it's ego driven and people say that about even Mother Teresa.

1100
01:13:30,354 --> 01:13:39,029
you know, Mother Teresa went, but she had a thing about the Catholic church and the
Catholic heaven and the, and the, things you need to do.

1101
01:13:39,069 --> 01:13:44,202
I don't know to what extent she, she was doing it just from that because I didn't meet
her.

1102
01:13:44,202 --> 01:13:45,413
Right.

1103
01:13:45,413 --> 01:13:54,437
But whether she was doing it to get to heaven selfishly or whether she was doing it
because it was just her natural expression.

1104
01:13:54,758 --> 01:13:55,618
Right.

1105
01:13:55,824 --> 01:14:02,438
The natural expression is definitely was within her just because it's also within me and
it's also within you.

1106
01:14:02,438 --> 01:14:08,326
And it's also within every discontent person who's trying to work their way into heaven on
this planet.

1107
01:14:08,326 --> 01:14:09,046
Yeah.

1108
01:14:09,046 --> 01:14:10,998
So let me, let me wrap up with this one.

1109
01:14:10,998 --> 01:14:15,730
Cause I really could, we could, I got my team of people probably hitting the red light on
me, which I, you know, is what it is.

1110
01:14:15,730 --> 01:14:27,017
But, what do you think in all, in all, the, your past 45 to 50 years in the space of
engaging with humans and, leadership and your evolution and everything you've learned, is

1111
01:14:27,017 --> 01:14:30,739
there a moment that you've had that you felt like you were most impactful?

1112
01:14:30,739 --> 01:14:35,682
Is there a moment that really stands, it stands out in your mind and says, well, I really
made a difference there.

1113
01:14:38,770 --> 01:14:41,311
No, I don't think like that.

1114
01:14:42,211 --> 01:14:50,033
And again, I don't think like that because I'm not, I'm not, you know, it's like, I'm
doing it because it needs to be done.

1115
01:14:50,073 --> 01:14:52,124
I'm not doing it because of the perks for me.

1116
01:14:52,124 --> 01:14:58,236
Like when I worked with oils, you know, I started, I developed a method for making oils
with health in mind.

1117
01:14:58,236 --> 01:15:03,257
I'm in the Canadian health food associate and all of fame for doing that.

1118
01:15:03,277 --> 01:15:03,817
Right.

1119
01:15:03,817 --> 01:15:04,898
I didn't do it for that.

1120
01:15:04,898 --> 01:15:06,768
And the money was pretty good.

1121
01:15:07,248 --> 01:15:08,710
I didn't do it for that.

1122
01:15:08,710 --> 01:15:10,902
That was never about money for me.

1123
01:15:11,324 --> 01:15:13,346
I was already, because I felt cared for.

1124
01:15:13,346 --> 01:15:16,811
Even I got poisoned by pesticides, but I still felt cared for.

1125
01:15:16,811 --> 01:15:17,775
I knew what I did.

1126
01:15:17,775 --> 01:15:19,834
I knew what I needed to change.

1127
01:15:20,416 --> 01:15:22,598
But I was doing it because...

1128
01:15:25,010 --> 01:15:33,210
I knew it would help a lot of people because I found out 99 % of the population doesn't
get enough omega-3s for optimum health.

1129
01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:36,930
And so it was like, oh my God, we could help almost everybody.

1130
01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:38,610
And that feels good here.

1131
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:40,090
That feels good here.

1132
01:15:40,090 --> 01:15:47,770
But I wasn't, it's like, there was that realization, but it was never about money and it
was never about fame.

1133
01:15:47,770 --> 01:15:49,670
It was just like this.

1134
01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:54,270
It needs to be done because it can be done and I can do it.

1135
01:15:54,270 --> 01:15:54,810
Right?

1136
01:15:54,810 --> 01:15:56,673
I'm doing it because I want to.

1137
01:15:56,914 --> 01:15:57,755
It's so good.

1138
01:15:57,755 --> 01:16:04,619
was thinking, I was thinking more of the question when I said, did you realize not that
you intentionally made the difference or the impact?

1139
01:16:04,619 --> 01:16:10,522
I just didn't know if there was a moment that you threw reflection that you truly had this
moment of.

1140
01:16:11,003 --> 01:16:13,053
Man, they really, that really helped them.

1141
01:16:13,053 --> 01:16:16,144
That really grew not again, not from a monetary perspective.

1142
01:16:16,144 --> 01:16:27,109
Yeah, I did have a moment where I said, my God, if we could make oils with health in mind
and get them out to people, the 99 % that aren't getting enough for optimum health.

1143
01:16:27,109 --> 01:16:29,300
my God, we could help almost everybody.

1144
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:30,500
And that felt so good.

1145
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:32,461
That was kind of the drive behind it.

1146
01:16:32,461 --> 01:16:34,922
Cause it was like, okay, this is worth doing.

1147
01:16:35,182 --> 01:16:36,042
This is worth doing.

1148
01:16:36,042 --> 01:16:36,198
Yeah.

1149
01:16:36,198 --> 01:16:41,064
It wasn't about money, but it was worth doing the idea of raising quality of life.

1150
01:16:41,205 --> 01:16:42,385
That's been my buzz.

1151
01:16:42,385 --> 01:16:45,206
That's been my buzz since I was six years old.

1152
01:16:45,828 --> 01:16:51,543
And when I listened to adults argue about stupid things and I just looked at it, like,
always made me feel uneasy.

1153
01:16:51,543 --> 01:16:53,806
A six year old war baby, you know?

1154
01:16:53,806 --> 01:17:02,152
And, and then one day I listened to one of those arguments and feel it, felt uneasy and
said, man, there must be a way that people can live in harmony.

1155
01:17:02,152 --> 01:17:09,417
And this little cocky voice that doesn't know how complicated everything says, and I'm
going to find out how.

1156
01:17:09,577 --> 01:17:13,961
So that's so, so that thing has been, that's been my drive.

1157
01:17:14,291 --> 01:17:22,988
all pretty much since I was six, but there are moments of insight and I have a lot of
those and it's not coming out of books.

1158
01:17:22,988 --> 01:17:33,057
Some of I read books and I've read lots of books, but a lot of the insights now just come
because I'm in a place where insight happens.

1159
01:17:33,057 --> 01:17:37,400
Like Einstein said, he says, 99 times I think and think and think and I get nothing.

1160
01:17:37,441 --> 01:17:43,345
And one day I stopped thinking and I float in silence and the answer comes to.

1161
01:17:44,478 --> 01:17:47,527
So he was like a mystic, that's like a mystic state.

1162
01:17:47,527 --> 01:17:49,200
I'm in that state quite a bit.

1163
01:17:52,586 --> 01:17:54,253
We continue this by the way.

1164
01:17:54,253 --> 01:17:55,584
We could do more of it.

1165
01:17:55,584 --> 01:17:57,035
Yes, this awesome thing.

1166
01:17:57,035 --> 01:17:58,076
Thank you for sharing this.

1167
01:17:58,076 --> 01:18:00,838
This is really beneficial and impactful for people.

1168
01:18:01,777 --> 01:18:02,147
Yeah.

1169
01:18:02,147 --> 01:18:06,150
I mean, we'll do all the tags and all the hits and where to find you and all the social
media stuff.

1170
01:18:06,150 --> 01:18:11,153
But, is there just one place that just utahrasmus.com like it just go there and they'll
find you.

1171
01:18:11,153 --> 01:18:16,542
That's one, yeah, I'm on Facebook and I'm starting on 2026.

1172
01:18:16,542 --> 01:18:19,537
I'm going to stop posting stuff.

1173
01:18:19,537 --> 01:18:22,781
I'm going to focus on total health and human nature.

1174
01:18:22,781 --> 01:18:27,798
And I'm going to just drive all my social media that way and my website as

1175
01:18:28,262 --> 01:18:30,587
Thank you for taking the time for sharing this with us.

1176
01:18:30,587 --> 01:18:31,844
It's much appreciated.

1177
01:18:31,844 --> 01:18:34,465
Well, thank you for putting me on.