Oct. 6, 2025

#148 - Building Wealth, Legacy & Creativity: Denzel Whitaker, Maestro Harrell, Jesse Janari, Jack Cook & DJ Smooth on The Necessary Entrepreneur

#148 - Building Wealth, Legacy & Creativity: Denzel Whitaker, Maestro Harrell, Jesse Janari, Jack Cook & DJ Smooth on The Necessary Entrepreneur

On this episode of The Necessary Entrepreneur with Mark Perkins, we welcome a dynamic group of creatives and entrepreneurs: actor and filmmaker Denzel Whitaker, musician and actor Maestro Harrell, and writer Jesse Janari discussing their new feature film Brand New; Jack Cook, founder of Illusion Islands Studio; and Jacob Gibbs (DJ Smooth), Cincinnati realtor and on-air personality for WIZF The WIZ, the city’s #1 Hip Hop and R&B station.

Together, they dive into entrepreneurship, creativity, personal growth, and the path to building wealth and legacy. From filmmaking and music to real estate and broadcasting, this inspiring conversation explores how vision, accountability, and community support fuel success across industries.

Key Takeaways:

  • Identity, validation, and self-awareness drive personal and professional growth.

  • Community and environment play critical roles in shaping success.

  • Healthy relationships and accountability accelerate progress.

  • Resilience and mindset are essential in navigating challenges.

  • Financial literacy and curiosity open doors to opportunity.

  • Building a legacy requires vision, planning, and responsibility.

  • True fulfillment comes from the journey, not just the outcome.


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Welcome to The Necessary Entrepreneur.

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Today's episode features actor and filmmaker Denzel Whitaker, Maestro Harrell, and Jesse
Gennari promoting the film Brand New, along with Cincinnati Realtor and on-air personality

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DJ Smooth, and Jack Cook, founder of Illusion Islands Entertainment Studios.

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We jump straight into an amazing conversation, so get ready for insights on creativity,
entrepreneurship, building wealth, and leaving a legacy.

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Plus,

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Some behind the scenes moments with our cameraman, Jack, capturing it all.

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It's funny that you guys were just in this movie brand new.

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You're in town doing all this stuff.

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You marketing and you show up and get the awards and stuff.

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But it's like, why do we feel like that we have to go out and share everything that we
believe with the world?

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we don't we do what do you mean why do we believe we do

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But the world right now does because that's almost where they're getting validation and
identity.

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But yeah.

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There you go.

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Validation and identity for a lot of people.

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Think about eight billion people in the world, how many people go unseen?

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How many people felt unseen?

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Just within their own home, just within their own communities.

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And now you have uh basically this tool that connects the entire world instantaneously.

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And overnight, everybody could be somebody in a matter of seconds, right?

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So, you know, that empowers a lot of people.

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I say this respectfully, not every voice needs to be heard.

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Or be somebody within your own community first.

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Find your own identity locally first.

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You know, to that point, but a lot of people want that and crave that and they will seek
that attention.

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You know what I mean?

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Everybody wants attention.

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I'll shoot some bail here.

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We all want to be seen, don't we?

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You go home to your family, right?

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After a long day, you close the deal, you did whatever, you feeling like the man.

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Wouldn't you love nothing more than to go home and be seen by the people you love?

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I don't need to anymore.

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uh

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So here's what.

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I'm saying though is you don't need to anymore.

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But what if you never got that?

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Great question.

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I think the vast majority of us to this point in this conversation, the vast majority of
us, honestly, even though we feel like we're being seen, I don't think we receive any

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true, honest, authentic validation from the rest of the world at any moment.

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I think they're cheering for us in weird moments and they're looking to tear us down.

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And I think they're tearing us down because that's how most people feel.

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They don't feel worthy.

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And so I don't think most of us inside who we want to be, who we feel like we could be,

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I don't think we ever really truly get a chance to be that person, to be seen, to be felt.

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I don't think most of us do because if we did, everybody will be fulfilling their complete
potential.

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And when I look out here in the world in business, entertainment, everybody, I see a lot
of people falling short on what they already have inside of them.

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And that is the story and the narrative they're telling themselves for some reason.

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but I also think it's because society, the society we live in, it also tells you that
that's okay.

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And that's like, I don't subscribe to that, but that's the same thing of like, we live in
a very like, you know, pushing people or being like, you know, how people say, don't beat

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yourself up, don't be hard on yourself.

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But like, you know, everything's balanced, right?

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So like, there should be those moments internally, you are hard on yourself, but then you
also have to know how to shake that off and move forward.

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But I think we live in an era where majority of people just are not hard on themselves.

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What do think about that?

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a lack of accountability on all parts.

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People don't, once again, make the promises.

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They don't keep the promises that they make to themselves.

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So you're a loser because you lose to you every day.

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Why do think that's a problem?

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And you have a thought about this.

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Why do you think?

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Go with it then.

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Because you want accountability and there's a positive conversation that can be had around
it.

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But so many people have such a vitriol response to instantly hearing that, right?

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They go to their political place.

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They go to their religious place.

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They go to...

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And I'm like, hold on.

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We're talking about individual responsibility and accountability for owning your outcome.

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And that clashes up against a bunch of things.

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What you think about this?

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I'm just going back to the notion of what you said.

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You're using words like most.

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Most people don't feel this, right?

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There are exceptional beings and exceptional beings can lead the way through their own
actions for other people.

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So to your point, right?

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I bring this back to you.

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If you go, are you married?

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been together 17 years.

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We're not married, but I've been with her 17 years.

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So it's a good thing.

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We've been together longer than most people stay married.

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Okay, wonderful.

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That's a blessing, right?

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You guys have been together for this long.

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Does she pour into you?

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It's a yes, but it's almost like context needs to be added.

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explain.

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She's substantial and incredible in all her own ways, separate from me as well.

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And so because of that, she believes and know that she's capable of pretty much anything
that she sets her mind to.

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And so individually, when she has developed that, and if, you know, we can tell the
narrative of our stories, where we came from, challenges.

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I think the vast majority of us had challenges that look similar to what other people.

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It might not feel the same way.

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But if you saw where she came from,

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there's a big group of people that don't feel the same way that she's felt about taking
responsibility, about accountability, about the furthering her education and you know,

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where she started here and she's risen up the ladder eight or nine or 10 times.

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And what I'm going to tell you is that I'm sure if you look at the full story, maybe I get
a little bit of credit for being a good partner, but not the majority of it.

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And so what I know is, is she's already that individual before I go home at night and tell
her how awesome and amazing she is.

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So what I'm saying is, that it's not needed from her because the infrastructure that she's
built herself.

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simple question though.

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I asked does she pour into you?

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incredible being that she is.

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What I'm saying is, I don't need her to be.

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So, yes, but if I'll say yes.

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Okay, you say yes, right?

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That's what I'm saying.

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You might not need all of what everybody, when people are out there seeking for attention,
they're seeking for it in ways that they might need it more of, that they might have never

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gotten or received, excuse me.

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What I'm saying is you might not need all of that.

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I don't know your life story, but whatever it is, maybe it's your partner, maybe it's your
family, whomever.

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your cup is filled enough to where you can sustain and your being who you are as a person
might not need all of that.

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Right.

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Now, also, too, have you been doing work on yourself, like in terms of being honest with
yourself, looking in the mirror, like seeing the man who you are today and being like, OK,

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I could have been better here or this is where I kind of messed up, et cetera, et cetera.

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Have you done that work?

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there's a self-awareness that I try to have every day with myself.

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Where I have an honest relationship.

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And not just with the person I think I am.

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The micro-person I am daily with other humans.

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And that's a tough place to get as a human because you gotta have your ego in the right
spot.

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You gotta have your confidence in the right spot and what you believe about yourself
because to go to this vulnerable place...

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to have an honest conversation if I lived up to the expectation I had of myself every day,
that's not comfortable for a certain part of life until you start owning it.

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And so I don't think I've perfected it.

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I don't know if I ever will, but I try to have a substantial level of self-awareness
around not who I believe I am about who even the world's getting to experience.

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So with that being said, and this is just me giving you your simple flowers, we step off
of the elevator, we meet you, you're eating a bag of Doritos, Jack gives you a compliment.

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You said, man, I'm sitting here eating Doritos.

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Very honest.

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We walk into your building, you're hosting us here, seeing everything that you've amassed
thus far.

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Clearly you're a man who has figured something out.

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You have made the proof of concept, yes, very much real and continuing to develop upon
that.

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So when you say most,

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Sir, we're having a conversation about somebody who is very realized.

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So when we're talking about people who need this validation, I don't think you fit
anywhere near that bubble.

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And that's just me giving you flowers.

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My question is this is my question.

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This is what we don't talk about when it comes to the lack of accountability.

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How do you how here?

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And that's what we don't talk about, especially as men.

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We talk about the final product, but we don't talk about what happened when none of this
shit was what it was.

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What is the mindset?

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What is the heart posture there?

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What is the environment?

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What's the self-talk there?

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And that's what we don't talk about as men.

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We talk about the final.

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it's here.

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Yeah, but what about when this is not a table?

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Yeah, cause see if we're gonna, if we're gonna have that conversation, let's just say
there's a certain percentage of exceptional humans.

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Okay.

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We see them in every category.

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There's exceptional here.

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And then there's people that for some reason that never get it together.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just, don't know if they have the worst luck in the world.

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I don't, they just never get it together.

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So we're talking about a middle 60 or 80 % somewhere is what we're talking about.

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About is there something we can talk about and share that that group of people could
actually practically take.

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Yes.

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And make actionable.

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Yeah.

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Whether it's young men, at what point does it start at fourteen?

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Does it start at six?

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Right.

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Pull it to you if you want.

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Start it comes in more.

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Sorry.

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Start working out.

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Yeah.

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Fucking.

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We lost my ass.

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So, here we go.

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Talking to the 000 water

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You really don't...

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Yeah, and that's the thing, it's, that's another thing.

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It's a win if you don't have a ecosystem of wins yet.

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So you know what I mean?

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It's like you wake up, you make yourself accountable.

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Hey, I wouldn't did this.

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didn't really necessarily have to.

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No one made me.

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I did it for myself.

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And that action leads to other things.

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Like my life changed when I started working out Dave.

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Mmm.

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Seriously funny, but you're the guy that's in the best shape in the room.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Here we go.

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What type of shape we talking about?

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What type of shape we talking about?

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I mean, don't say.

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Listen.

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Without a shadow of a doubt, probably.

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Once again, delusional, right?

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I don't have that.

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I'm definitely in the best fucking shape here.

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OK.

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delusional, I don't have that.

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And then proceeds to say.

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Looks better.

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Stronger, faster, not like that.

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I mean, I'm in great.

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Fucking 70 pounds in like four months, five months.

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uh

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less a lot.

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He has.

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Guarantee, but I'm also delusional, but I also have a village I have accountability
partners who go Fat-ass fuck are you doing?

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Yeah, and you need that sometimes and if I was any less than actually who I am I would be
offended we were I did it last night.

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He's like no I'm like, hold on

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I mean, it was somewhere in between the drumsticks, the cornbread.

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Yeah

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But you need accountability partners to hold you accountable for the promises that you
said to yourself.

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if he goes to Solid Core or Yoga Spot, he goes and then I'm off my three mile run.

216
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And it's like...

217
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He in the chat and he goes, matter of fact, I'm actually taking a class later.

218
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This is before the flight here.

219
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Like we all have our workout clothes.

220
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We haven't had no time to get it in, but it does.

221
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We got an awesome gym with towel service on the first floor.

222
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We'll in.

223
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We'll stop in.

224
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As a man, how do you designate who your accountability partner is without ego being in
place?

225
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It's like, do you listen to him to say, put that down and you not look at it as judgment.

226
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why am I around somebody I don't trust with my life and my decision?

227
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Why are you here and why am I here?

228
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I trust me, they trust me because I trust me.

229
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I trust them because they trust them.

230
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So it's a system of trust that goes, well, I make promises to myself and I keep them.

231
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That attracts me to more people who make promises to themselves that they keep.

232
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And then that system and that tribe continues to grow.

233
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And so...

234
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You're not around these people because you're not that people.

235
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You want to have good friends, be a good friend.

236
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And that's how that happens to every aspect of our lives, financially, physically,
mentally,

237
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And that was why I started with the gym, because I was like, at least when you go to the
gym, if you don't have that ecosystem already, or you haven't met these people at work,

238
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these are people who show up and do something and they're consistent with it every day.

239
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So at least you know that they're dedicated to one thing in their life.

240
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maybe that's a good place to start when it's meeting people who are accountable.

241
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If you know that you're kind of a slacker or you're kind of a well, these you can
literally see it and you see you see what work they're putting in.

242
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Yeah.

243
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were you always this guy?

244
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So how'd that change?

245
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I got around people who were better.

246
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I wanted better.

247
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I wanted more.

248
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I want more.

249
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Not for other people to go, he has more.

250
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No, I want it for me.

251
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And I think that God puts that desire in all of us.

252
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But you have to tap into it.

253
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It's a muscle.

254
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We tap into lust.

255
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We tap into greed.

256
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We tap into gluttony.

257
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We tap into everything else.

258
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But we don't tap into greatness.

259
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It's in the same pool as every other emotion.

260
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And so once you start to dig through, right, healing the inner child, the trauma that we
all face as kids, from

261
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zero to seven or 14 or whatever, you go, oh, I need to start to dissect this thing and I
need to grow from where things went wrong.

262
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And then you just, you went for the front of the other.

263
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You get your ass in the gym.

264
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You stopped drinking.

265
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You stopped smoking.

266
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You stopped getting in the porn, whatever your vice is.

267
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You stopped gambling, whatever that, especially when you're not where you want to be.

268
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And I got there because my mind is bulletproof to what I want.

269
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because I come from a very different background than them, but we all come from similar
backgrounds.

270
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Like I'm from like South Central LA.

271
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So me getting around these guys, it's like, nah, they never really have to like work a
regular job.

272
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I've had, no, I've gotta go get it.

273
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I have to go get it.

274
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And that allows me to go, well, if I'm around these guys, I'm winning.

275
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And then I look at them and I go, well, if I'm around y'all, y'all know where I came from,
it forces them to be better.

276
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and be greater.

277
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Because now it's like you got somebody on your heels.

278
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Like me on your heels.

279
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Yeah.

280
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What do you guys hear saying?

281
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He came from a different place, right?

282
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Now I'm on your heels.

283
00:15:26,931 --> 00:15:33,307
It forces you to be better and stuff because the way that he's talking because he's
talking on the mic to us, but he's really talking to himself.

284
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That's what's happening here, right?

285
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What do you guys feel hearing that about this whole conversation about coming from a
different place, being around people pulling it?

286
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What

287
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Well, it's different like, well, A, growing up, I grew up in the industry, right?

288
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So like I grew up on South Side of Chicago, but I was flying to go do Jay Leno, you know,
every weekend and doing shit like that.

289
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So was like, I didn't live the normal South Side of Chicago situation.

290
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They didn't have to work like we had to work.

291
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oh

292
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I was in the boiler rooms with my dad.

293
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He's an electrician and a plumber.

294
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was in the boiler rooms.

295
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I was in those dirty basements.

296
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Listen, I did some of that stuff.

297
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But realistically, I got put into this industry very early.

298
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it's like, there are certain aspects of that that I didn't experience as far as having a
nine to five, doing things like that.

299
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But at the same time, it's like,

300
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I knew what a job was before anybody was thinking about having a job.

301
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see what I'm saying?

302
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So it's like, it's a catch-22, you know what I mean?

303
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Like I learned what making sacrifices because I couldn't, you know, it might've been dumb
things at the time.

304
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like, oh, well, all my friends are doing this, but you can't do that because you can't get
hurt or you can't do this.

305
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You can't be there because you got to show over here.

306
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Like I understood accountability and work early.

307
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Yeah.

308
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And so that's something that's it's it's a different type of work, but that same work
ethic and that accountability of no, I got to go get it.

309
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this is like once again, like kudos to like my dad, like my dad is my dad and my mom.

310
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But like, man, like my dad was the one who put me in this industry, figured it out, didn't
take no for an ad.

311
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He's from Chester, Pennsylvania.

312
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Rockstar.

313
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There's no way he should have figured out how to get me on anything.

314
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This guy figured out how to do everything from get me on, you know.

315
00:17:23,374 --> 00:17:29,494
was in Ali, was in Barbershop, The Wire, Fear of the Walking Dead, had my own TV show when
I'm seven years old on UPN.

316
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The guy figured it out.

317
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so watching him, and then on top of that, never took any money from me.

318
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This was for me.

319
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This was so I had something.

320
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You know what I mean?

321
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They had their career.

322
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My mom's a registered nerd.

323
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They had their career.

324
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So to see that and it-

325
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That keeps me accountable because it's like, if you figured this out, I already got a foot
in the door now.

326
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So there ain't no way I can't take this across the goal line.

327
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what are we talking about?

328
00:17:57,281 --> 00:18:04,478
But yeah, think it's uh it's it's a, yeah, it's just, it's accountability.

329
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It's work ethic and accountability.

330
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got something to say.

331
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You're, you're a deep thinker, right?

332
00:18:07,974 --> 00:18:09,127
You've been thinking about it, right?

333
00:18:09,127 --> 00:18:11,582
can tell, But what's accountability?

334
00:18:11,582 --> 00:18:12,834
use these words.

335
00:18:12,876 --> 00:18:14,438
What's your definition of that?

336
00:18:14,882 --> 00:18:16,742
Talk to them how you talk to me.

337
00:18:18,123 --> 00:18:22,224
give them, like, I don't think y'all understand who these men are.

338
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That's why I'm here.

339
00:18:25,045 --> 00:18:26,485
Hold on.

340
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These are some of the hardest working fucking men I know.

341
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Some of, like, everything that I'm able to do is because of these two men.

342
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Out of a list of great men in my life, right?

343
00:18:38,209 --> 00:18:42,338
Accountability, these, I mean, he's always thinking.

344
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Yeah.

345
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He speaks and then I just do it.

346
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Him the same way.

347
00:18:47,451 --> 00:18:53,777
it's once again, they are like creme de la creme of like whatever it is that they do.

348
00:18:53,777 --> 00:19:02,442
Like, I mean, I just, gotta throw that out there because the accountability that we have
is the accountability that people need in order to grow and thrive.

349
00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:06,395
I don't want to hear your shit if you're not doing the piece.

350
00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:14,520
Yeah, it's like that's really like the real.

351
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,822
A lot of people like to just like that's why I said lie to yourself.

352
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:19,323
A lot of people like to lie to themselves.

353
00:19:19,323 --> 00:19:20,234
Listen.

354
00:19:20,582 --> 00:19:23,663
I do it sometimes and I go, what the fuck are you doing?

355
00:19:23,943 --> 00:19:27,815
things aren't where they should be because you're not doing X, Y, and You see that guy?

356
00:19:27,815 --> 00:19:29,206
He's doing this, this, and this.

357
00:19:29,206 --> 00:19:30,146
Are you even close?

358
00:19:30,146 --> 00:19:30,686
No.

359
00:19:30,686 --> 00:19:33,197
So what the fuck do you expect?

360
00:19:33,197 --> 00:19:37,719
Like, it's really simple, it doesn't, you know, it can hurt your feelings.

361
00:19:37,719 --> 00:19:40,450
It's not necessarily gonna make you feel good, but.

362
00:19:40,590 --> 00:19:42,470
It makes you better.

363
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:49,290
know, there's a reason why I don't think there's ever been a boxing champion who's you
know, who's trained to talk to him like, no, it's okay.

364
00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:50,730
You know, we'll get the jab tomorrow.

365
00:19:50,730 --> 00:19:52,270
No, it's a, are you doing?

366
00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:53,270
Get it together.

367
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:56,750
Oh, okay, so you're never gonna win, huh?

368
00:19:57,490 --> 00:19:58,250
It's that motive.

369
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Like sometimes you need that tough motivation on yourself.

370
00:20:00,410 --> 00:20:04,110
And don't get me wrong, not everybody learns that way, which I've learned in a lot of
relationships.

371
00:20:04,110 --> 00:20:05,330
Doesn't always work.

372
00:20:06,910 --> 00:20:09,170
But, but that's job.

373
00:20:10,702 --> 00:20:18,602
Yeah, I just I have that like even when you were talking about your partner I loved how
you were just like no no no like she knows that anything she she puts her mind to she like

374
00:20:18,602 --> 00:20:27,022
I like you I need like even in that like I see that in other people's like no I need that
other animal who's like You know how I get myself to do things.

375
00:20:27,022 --> 00:20:36,142
I don't That I don't want to do or I'm like I don't need to do that whenever I get into
those moments You know what I think of I think of all the people I know who wouldn't do it

376
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and where they are like mmm That's literally what I do.

377
00:20:39,162 --> 00:20:40,320
Oh, you know what?

378
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,281
My friend blah, blah.

379
00:20:41,281 --> 00:20:42,501
Yeah, he wouldn't do that either.

380
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Where the fuck is he at?

381
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blah, blah, blah.

382
00:20:44,283 --> 00:20:44,734
Wouldn't do this.

383
00:20:44,734 --> 00:20:45,855
Where's he at?

384
00:20:46,096 --> 00:20:46,536
Hmm.

385
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Maybe I should get my ass up.

386
00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:51,331
But literally, like, that's my accountability.

387
00:20:51,331 --> 00:20:59,589
My accountability is seeing the things that I that I don't want or when I since I know I
can be very harsh and judgmental.

388
00:20:59,662 --> 00:21:01,282
but you know what people don't know is.

389
00:21:01,282 --> 00:21:02,222
that's what they do.

390
00:21:02,222 --> 00:21:06,962
See, see that what the what society doesn't comprehend is anybody like you, that's how you
talk to yourself.

391
00:21:06,962 --> 00:21:07,542
Right.

392
00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:10,742
You're not just being an asshole or a prick to everybody else.

393
00:21:10,742 --> 00:21:12,842
It's like this is how the success happens.

394
00:21:12,842 --> 00:21:14,162
It's like, don't be mean to yourself.

395
00:21:14,162 --> 00:21:14,942
Don't get depressed.

396
00:21:14,942 --> 00:21:16,942
It's like this is what success looks like.

397
00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:17,382
Yeah.

398
00:21:17,382 --> 00:21:17,722
Yeah.

399
00:21:17,722 --> 00:21:18,682
This is what it is.

400
00:21:18,682 --> 00:21:22,894
Like maybe someone could do it softer, but that's what accountability is.

401
00:21:22,894 --> 00:21:23,889
It's not always gentle.

402
00:21:23,889 --> 00:21:25,183
It's not gentle.

403
00:21:25,334 --> 00:21:34,838
And when I'm doing it or I'm saying it like, I'm saying it to them, it's literally, a lot
of times I say things out loud because like you said, I need to hear it.

404
00:21:34,838 --> 00:21:42,640
And I'm saying it to you and hopefully you can grab something from this, but also I need
to, so now that I've just given you this whole soliloquy of what you're supposed to do,

405
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,696
I'd be damned if I don't get my ass up and go, ugh!

406
00:21:46,696 --> 00:21:49,549
So you need your own personal David Goggins is what you're telling me.

407
00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:53,838
uh

408
00:21:53,838 --> 00:21:55,078
needed David Gotten.

409
00:21:55,078 --> 00:21:56,318
That's what I'm saying.

410
00:21:56,358 --> 00:22:01,318
I saw him kick Israel out of signing his ass and I was like, yeah, I want to go do that.

411
00:22:01,318 --> 00:22:08,582
I don't think I would get very far, but I want to go, if I could do that, I want it
because I need it.

412
00:22:09,706 --> 00:22:12,106
sophistication and deep thinking.

413
00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:17,546
He's he's got his leg.

414
00:22:17,546 --> 00:22:22,566
He's like, I'm let y'all talk all crazy and then I'm gonna bring it right down.

415
00:22:23,266 --> 00:22:26,466
Socrates and Plato was gonna show up in 2025.

416
00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:28,686
But what?

417
00:22:28,686 --> 00:22:29,246
Here's the question.

418
00:22:29,246 --> 00:22:33,086
So, here's, I know that that mentality wins.

419
00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:34,706
Thank you.

420
00:22:34,706 --> 00:22:35,266
It just does.

421
00:22:35,266 --> 00:22:35,719
It wins.

422
00:22:35,719 --> 00:22:36,551
know.

423
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:45,514
the connection that I'm trying to be in my older age now, getting to my 40s to realize
there's a vast, there's a big group of people.

424
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:53,473
that for some reason aren't comfortable or good at talking to themselves this way but they
still say they want more out of life.

425
00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:57,195
So here's the question, is it okay?

426
00:22:57,195 --> 00:23:03,257
And the reason why I say is okay not for approval, is it okay because is that the thing
that's going to help them get to where they want to be?

427
00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:04,834
That's all I'm trying to figure out.

428
00:23:04,834 --> 00:23:06,941
That's a Denzel question for sure.

429
00:23:07,438 --> 00:23:09,336
I don't

430
00:23:09,336 --> 00:23:09,948
really quickly.

431
00:23:09,948 --> 00:23:12,518
Are you saying it's okay that they don't talk to themselves?

432
00:23:12,518 --> 00:23:15,201
Is it okay that we say this is the way?

433
00:23:15,201 --> 00:23:21,818
But maybe for 60 % of the folks, for some reason where they currently are, it's just not
the thing that's going to get them going.

434
00:23:21,818 --> 00:23:23,650
Like, I'm on the search for the thing.

435
00:23:23,650 --> 00:23:26,733
I look at a human, and I'm like, who do you fully want to be?

436
00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:28,274
I want them to be that.

437
00:23:28,555 --> 00:23:33,160
But what I figured out is it doesn't work talking to everybody the same way all the time.

438
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,581
I want to say, let's just do it and say it.

439
00:23:35,581 --> 00:23:40,455
but it they don't digest it and then if it's lost in translation if they can't digest the
message

440
00:23:40,455 --> 00:23:41,779
What good is it then?

441
00:23:42,594 --> 00:23:45,516
Okay, let me come from point of relationships.

442
00:23:45,717 --> 00:23:47,278
We want to talk about potential, right?

443
00:23:47,278 --> 00:23:54,684
ah There have been partners that you date and you look at them and you see the potential,
right?

444
00:23:54,684 --> 00:24:00,028
But again, potential is- God.

445
00:24:00,028 --> 00:24:05,012
You see the potential, but again, potential is what you're projecting on them.

446
00:24:05,092 --> 00:24:06,173
You know what I mean?

447
00:24:06,173 --> 00:24:07,814
They can have it.

448
00:24:08,076 --> 00:24:16,932
And you know they have it, but you're also projecting the idea of what you think they can
be until they look themselves in the mirror and want that for themselves.

449
00:24:16,932 --> 00:24:19,514
You will never be able to get that out of them.

450
00:24:19,514 --> 00:24:20,495
You can force them.

451
00:24:20,495 --> 00:24:21,696
You can yell at them.

452
00:24:21,696 --> 00:24:24,798
You can try your damn this, put them in the best position to win.

453
00:24:24,798 --> 00:24:27,260
They are not going to do it for themselves.

454
00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:29,781
And no, it's very true.

455
00:24:29,781 --> 00:24:32,123
And I mean, the same thing is for self.

456
00:24:32,123 --> 00:24:36,706
Like, you know, to what these two men have said, like for me,

457
00:24:37,378 --> 00:24:42,363
The women in my life have changed and shaped me completely to the man I am today.

458
00:24:42,363 --> 00:24:45,165
My god sister, I give all credit where credit's due.

459
00:24:45,165 --> 00:24:46,602
I would not be in this position.

460
00:24:46,602 --> 00:24:49,879
I don't think I would even be alive if it weren't for this woman.

461
00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,151
She has transformed my life completely.

462
00:24:52,151 --> 00:24:57,796
But again, the way I need tough love, I'm okay with being like yelled at.

463
00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:01,439
And I mean, not like in an abusive manner, but tell it to me straight.

464
00:25:01,479 --> 00:25:02,851
Tell me where I'm fucking up.

465
00:25:02,851 --> 00:25:04,832
Tell me where I'm getting off course.

466
00:25:04,834 --> 00:25:11,700
And, you know, she was able to break down my walls and insecurities in a way that was
like, this is what you're doing.

467
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,662
If you continue down this path, here's where you're going to go.

468
00:25:14,662 --> 00:25:18,786
And I have seen tremendous shifts in my life by having those tough and hard conversations.

469
00:25:18,786 --> 00:25:23,189
But again, it's because of to what Jesse said, I wanted something for myself.

470
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:26,852
There was a goal that I had seen, but I was not achieving it.

471
00:25:26,852 --> 00:25:31,076
And then all of a sudden, when somebody gives it to me straight and they're like, hey,
here's where you're fucking up.

472
00:25:31,076 --> 00:25:33,878
So maybe this isn't the reason why you're ascending.

473
00:25:34,282 --> 00:25:37,354
then all of a sudden it's up to you to take it.

474
00:25:37,354 --> 00:25:39,865
It's up to you to take that message.

475
00:25:39,865 --> 00:25:46,249
And so like to the point that Maestro said, we've been doing this since we were young.

476
00:25:46,249 --> 00:25:46,789
Yeah.

477
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:50,911
The fact of the matter that Maestro got started at four, I got started at 10.

478
00:25:50,911 --> 00:25:53,252
I'm getting up early in the morning.

479
00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:54,133
What is school?

480
00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:55,814
What is sitting in class?

481
00:25:55,814 --> 00:25:56,894
Get on set.

482
00:25:56,894 --> 00:25:58,005
Learn your lines.

483
00:25:58,005 --> 00:25:58,916
Be prepared.

484
00:25:58,916 --> 00:26:01,677
You are working as an adult, as a child.

485
00:26:01,677 --> 00:26:04,038
So, yeah, there are certain um

486
00:26:04,226 --> 00:26:05,477
How would, what were you saying?

487
00:26:05,477 --> 00:26:09,548
There were certain opportunities, sacrifices that we would make over time.

488
00:26:09,548 --> 00:26:13,040
Normally people would be like, man, you were having fun, you were on set, blah, blah.

489
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,211
You know, you got the catering, the craft service, yada, yada, yada.

490
00:26:16,211 --> 00:26:22,154
But there are these sacrifices that are implanted within your DNA.

491
00:26:22,154 --> 00:26:26,876
So for us, somebody telling us, man, you're kind of fucking up correct course.

492
00:26:26,876 --> 00:26:29,447
It's easy for us because we've been doing it our entire life.

493
00:26:29,447 --> 00:26:31,798
It's a little bit easier for us to accept that.

494
00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:32,778
Also.

495
00:26:33,154 --> 00:26:35,206
What I'm saying is, like...

496
00:26:36,844 --> 00:26:42,231
And I say this for all the men in the room again, like we don't have children personally,
know, children, I don't know.

497
00:26:42,231 --> 00:26:42,941
Do you have a child?

498
00:26:42,941 --> 00:26:43,442
No.

499
00:26:43,442 --> 00:26:44,283
Jack has children.

500
00:26:44,283 --> 00:26:45,325
Do have children, sir?

501
00:26:45,325 --> 00:26:45,825
Okay.

502
00:26:45,825 --> 00:26:47,767
So for the both of you, right?

503
00:26:48,368 --> 00:26:50,992
When you brought children into the world, was that an active decision?

504
00:26:50,992 --> 00:26:51,892
Yes.

505
00:26:53,154 --> 00:26:53,545
Okay.

506
00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:56,652
That was hesitation.

507
00:26:56,652 --> 00:26:57,444
Bye.

508
00:26:57,806 --> 00:26:59,530
I'm calling semi bullshit on that one.

509
00:26:59,530 --> 00:27:05,613
But can I at say something about Jack, for instance, because I know the type of father you
are, right?

510
00:27:05,633 --> 00:27:10,555
Not only was it an active decision to bring children into this world, but you pour into
your children.

511
00:27:10,555 --> 00:27:21,040
And again, like the way I've been poured into by my mentors, by the people who love me,
the same way you pour into your children, you chose the active decision to raise those

512
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,440
children.

513
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,742
And then the community is there by raising those children as well.

514
00:27:24,742 --> 00:27:25,462
So again.

515
00:27:25,462 --> 00:27:32,617
We are testament of the men that we stand here today because somebody poured into us in a
way that was nurturing us and setting that foundation.

516
00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:37,150
So we talk about generational trauma, but we don't also talk about generational wealth and
legacy.

517
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:44,294
Because again, like, no, we maybe didn't come from the same background that Jesse came
from, but that doesn't mean our parents didn't come from that background.

518
00:27:44,294 --> 00:27:48,517
So now all of a sudden, thankfully they built a plateau to where we can skip that stuff.

519
00:27:48,517 --> 00:27:50,314
And when you talk about these...

520
00:27:50,314 --> 00:27:57,199
mega dynasty families and whatnot who have wealth and generation and control the 1 % of
the 5 % where we started the conversation.

521
00:27:57,199 --> 00:28:02,833
Well, hopefully what we could do as men sitting here opposite of you is keep building that
plateau.

522
00:28:02,833 --> 00:28:05,145
So no, our children don't have to work in nine to five.

523
00:28:05,145 --> 00:28:07,956
Maybe they can go out and create the company for the nine to five.

524
00:28:07,956 --> 00:28:08,527
You know what I mean?

525
00:28:08,527 --> 00:28:13,442
But like that's because somebody chose to pour into us early and it was intentional.

526
00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:18,826
Their parents, let me say this, fucking solid.

527
00:28:19,307 --> 00:28:23,310
I look at their parents and I'm like, I feel like I'm one of y'all kids.

528
00:28:23,851 --> 00:28:32,678
Like honestly I do because all of our parents come from like similar or the same
backgrounds, but decisions, right?

529
00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:34,900
Like my mom did the best she could with what she had.

530
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:37,482
Their parents did the best that they could with what they had.

531
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:42,226
And so that's why all of our path, our life pathways are very different, but it's.

532
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,435
Somehow, someway, today, we're all in the same room here, talking that shit.

533
00:28:47,896 --> 00:28:49,177
Somehow, someway.

534
00:28:49,177 --> 00:28:54,372
Now, I might have come from the back, or somebody might have come from the middle, or
somebody might have, but we're all here.

535
00:28:54,372 --> 00:29:03,151
So, there has to be a direct correlation with mindset or self-talk that gets everybody in
the same room.

536
00:29:03,151 --> 00:29:04,813
And we're all on one accord.

537
00:29:04,813 --> 00:29:06,032
So, you know.

538
00:29:06,032 --> 00:29:12,682
I think just because you said something about like, you said like greatness, like people
don't, feels like they don't want to get there.

539
00:29:12,682 --> 00:29:20,358
And then he said something about his like, yeah, we all fall into like, whether it be lust
or whether it be, I feel like all these other games are easy to win that it's the dopamine

540
00:29:20,358 --> 00:29:20,548
hit.

541
00:29:20,548 --> 00:29:22,029
It's why Instagram works.

542
00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:22,679
You know what I mean?

543
00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:29,352
It's like being great or accomplishing certain things in life.

544
00:29:29,352 --> 00:29:33,414
As you know, it's like you plant the seed today and like

545
00:29:34,124 --> 00:29:35,315
You know, you keep watering it.

546
00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:37,728
And that's just, it's a long game.

547
00:29:37,728 --> 00:29:45,647
You're not, you know, I've been in entertainment for 30 years and I've had highs, I've had
lows, it's a long game and you never really complete it.

548
00:29:45,647 --> 00:29:50,692
um Whereas these other things, you know, like getting laid, that happens and it's like,
cool, that was great.

549
00:29:57,272 --> 00:30:06,040
It's just one of those situations is like all these other things are just they're just
they're quick dopamine hits and I feel like people live off of that even shit even Eating

550
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:12,359
bad foods like if you're doing nothing with your life of Starbucks frappuccino is fucking
great It's a quick sugar hit and then you keep pushing like you know what I mean?

551
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:18,922
It's like people I think find it's the it's it's always easier to take

552
00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:20,570
It's more comfortable.

553
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:28,650
If you've never put yourself in these testing positions and you never have really tried to
do or accomplish anything, it's really hard for you to have any context of what's

554
00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:29,370
required.

555
00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:34,390
So that's why, once again, the gym is the easiest thing to start with, at least you know
what that requires.

556
00:30:34,390 --> 00:30:42,319
But anything else, it's like you're always going to be biting off more than you can chew,
because you've never actually started the process.

557
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:44,912
with this conversation, what do we say to?

558
00:30:46,912 --> 00:30:49,435
folks work and drive through a Taco Bell day.

559
00:30:49,858 --> 00:30:51,985
Who do you want to be?

560
00:30:54,094 --> 00:30:54,914
get it.

561
00:30:54,914 --> 00:30:55,934
so here's where I come.

562
00:30:55,934 --> 00:30:57,114
That's I come from.

563
00:30:57,614 --> 00:30:59,294
That's because that's where I come from.

564
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:00,374
Right.

565
00:31:00,414 --> 00:31:08,874
I come I come from blue collar, no money, no entrepreneurs, no conversation about
financial independence and financial wealth.

566
00:31:08,894 --> 00:31:16,554
So I think the vast majority of us, even though I think we have tremendous opportunity in
this country, the vast majority of this system is set up for average.

567
00:31:16,554 --> 00:31:17,324
That's 100%.

568
00:31:17,324 --> 00:31:18,154
And I'm okay with that.

569
00:31:18,154 --> 00:31:18,915
Even from the school system.

570
00:31:18,915 --> 00:31:26,081
I'm okay with it because our average, if you just sign up for doing a little bit of what
you're supposed to in this world, your average here is going to be way better than most of

571
00:31:26,081 --> 00:31:27,602
the averages around the world.

572
00:31:27,602 --> 00:31:28,182
Right.

573
00:31:28,182 --> 00:31:35,818
And so, but what is being faced with social media now with Instagram and our
conversations, I'm not going to slow down just because I'm a little sad and I see other

574
00:31:35,818 --> 00:31:36,929
people underperforming.

575
00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:39,851
I'm going to have some feels for him from where I came from, but I'm not slowing down.

576
00:31:39,851 --> 00:31:43,974
I'm not going to feel bad about me, but what do we say to him?

577
00:31:45,486 --> 00:31:47,577
I haven't have a picture in your head.

578
00:31:47,577 --> 00:31:48,717
I think that's the number one thing.

579
00:31:48,717 --> 00:31:53,780
Most people who are lost, how you even said like, who do you want to be?

580
00:31:53,780 --> 00:32:00,913
Like I know you got from drive through a Taco Bell, cause you saw either other people that
you said, that guy looks like he has figured out.

581
00:32:00,913 --> 00:32:01,632
What's he doing?

582
00:32:01,632 --> 00:32:02,443
I want to figure this out.

583
00:32:02,443 --> 00:32:06,715
I want to be, we see glimpses of things we would like to be.

584
00:32:06,715 --> 00:32:12,678
Like I always get frustrated because people like even athletes or artists for the in my
opinion, the wrong reasons.

585
00:32:12,678 --> 00:32:14,068
Like I don't.

586
00:32:14,124 --> 00:32:16,075
I don't care that you like Beyonce because she has cool songs.

587
00:32:16,075 --> 00:32:16,816
Fuck that.

588
00:32:16,816 --> 00:32:24,011
Like Beyonce because you know how many times she was in uh these rehearsals in the
basement when she was doing Destiny's Child when she was a kid and nobody gave a fuck, but

589
00:32:24,011 --> 00:32:30,206
her dad kept making sure that all these girls were getting from place to place and then
she did that and then that worked and then she kept going to like the work ethic.

590
00:32:30,206 --> 00:32:32,828
Tiger Woods is dope because of the work ethic.

591
00:32:32,828 --> 00:32:35,190
It's not just because he's good at God.

592
00:32:37,454 --> 00:32:38,727
Great fathers.

593
00:32:40,148 --> 00:32:50,287
So when we talk about accountability, we lack that because we don't want to have the
conversation about having these fucking kids.

594
00:32:52,390 --> 00:32:54,912
That's really where this starts in the black community.

595
00:32:54,912 --> 00:32:56,940
Why we have more kids than we have.

596
00:32:56,940 --> 00:32:59,302
community the communities period

597
00:32:59,302 --> 00:33:01,534
Like you, know how, here's, here's, here's why.

598
00:33:01,534 --> 00:33:02,193
Like I love jumping.

599
00:33:02,193 --> 00:33:14,093
If you guys heard the conversations, the reason why me and Jacob, my mind, my mind going
to reason why me and him have grown to become friends is because I don't shy away from

600
00:33:14,093 --> 00:33:14,933
anything.

601
00:33:14,933 --> 00:33:21,550
And a guy that looks like me, if you get out here in the world and stop popping off the
things that I'm to talk to him about, it's not too popular.

602
00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:22,982
You

603
00:33:26,094 --> 00:33:26,974
Yeah.

604
00:33:27,174 --> 00:33:31,494
And so, the funny thing is at what level have you appreciated our conversations and where
we are?

605
00:33:31,494 --> 00:33:32,154
Oh, all the time.

606
00:33:32,154 --> 00:33:33,054
I text you all the time.

607
00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:34,554
We out four or five o'clock in the morning.

608
00:33:34,554 --> 00:33:37,074
I text you the next day like, I appreciate the conversation.

609
00:33:37,794 --> 00:33:46,474
And so I just think it's like when we got off the elevator, what I said was, you know, we
got these guys over here and had the little black beanie on the top.

610
00:33:46,474 --> 00:33:48,334
And I got, I got a guy wearing yellow and evil.

611
00:33:48,334 --> 00:33:55,234
Those guys have the same color skin as me, but I was like, dude, I need to step back from
you because I said, it looks like you might be East Newport.

612
00:33:55,374 --> 00:34:00,214
East Newport's a bunch of white people, honestly, that are living this life I just asked
about too.

613
00:34:00,214 --> 00:34:07,334
So I think what I said, what I kicked back on you the other day when I said, Hey man,
here's what's really tough for all of us to understand.

614
00:34:07,334 --> 00:34:12,194
Whether you were a female and just started to vote in 1920, just had the right to, right?

615
00:34:12,194 --> 00:34:12,975
Whether

616
00:34:12,975 --> 00:34:21,725
You're somebody who black and your ancestors come from slavery in this country or whether
there's some white kid that his whole ancestry came from Eastern Kentucky and his whole

617
00:34:21,725 --> 00:34:24,388
family was the coal mines and their wife was terrible too.

618
00:34:24,388 --> 00:34:31,845
It is tough for us to step outside of our terrible and realize honestly, you all the vast
majority of humans have their own form of terrible.

619
00:34:31,845 --> 00:34:32,878
They're trying to break out of.

620
00:34:32,878 --> 00:34:33,938
Oh yeah.

621
00:34:34,078 --> 00:34:34,734
Oh yeah.

622
00:34:34,734 --> 00:34:41,274
And I don't, and I think the tough thing for us until we can have humility and be in our
own moment and take responsibility, regardless of the stuff that's happened in the past,

623
00:34:41,274 --> 00:34:42,034
don't, don't ignore it.

624
00:34:42,034 --> 00:34:44,594
Don't throw it out, but say, you know what?

625
00:34:44,594 --> 00:34:50,994
There's a lot of other people that I can't feel or know what they went through, but just
cause they're a human, went through a lot of the same dumb shit and they're trying to

626
00:34:50,994 --> 00:34:51,994
overcome it too.

627
00:34:51,994 --> 00:34:54,614
On a level of what you're talking about, I think it goes even deeper.

628
00:34:54,614 --> 00:34:57,366
I think telling someone how

629
00:34:57,366 --> 00:34:57,846
is the thing.

630
00:34:57,846 --> 00:35:04,471
like, yeah, you could take accountability, but we also talk about my biggest thing is
where accountability meets opportunity, right?

631
00:35:04,471 --> 00:35:10,866
So like coming from how we say like the people who have nothing, there's not a lot of
opportunity there when it comes to meeting certain things.

632
00:35:10,866 --> 00:35:16,219
Like I don't think I would be where I am even having this conversation if I didn't have
the opportunity of.

633
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:16,800
Yeah.

634
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,430
You know I'm saying?

635
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:19,226
So I think people need to know.

636
00:35:19,226 --> 00:35:21,103
I think networking is big.

637
00:35:21,103 --> 00:35:24,345
I think like coming from where you all come from, I think I want to hear you all speak
more to that.

638
00:35:24,345 --> 00:35:25,206
m

639
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:34,131
telling people how to work a room, how to have a conversation with somebody who, like my
whole thing coming up when I was on tour, it wasn't for me to try and go after 2 Chainz or

640
00:35:34,131 --> 00:35:35,292
go after whoever else.

641
00:35:35,292 --> 00:35:36,973
It was let me talk to the security.

642
00:35:36,973 --> 00:35:37,896
Let me talk to the man.

643
00:35:37,896 --> 00:35:40,988
linear networking as opposed to vertical.

644
00:35:40,988 --> 00:35:42,568
People go up.

645
00:35:42,568 --> 00:35:44,609
You have to go across.

646
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:46,460
Now I had to learn this the hard way.

647
00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:48,988
No school, no Harvard, no none of that.

648
00:35:48,988 --> 00:35:49,912
No degrees.

649
00:35:49,912 --> 00:35:54,694
I just got out here with my boss and just figured it the fuck out.

650
00:35:57,296 --> 00:35:59,507
You see what I'm saying?

651
00:35:59,507 --> 00:36:01,477
Listen, what would I do with that?

652
00:36:02,078 --> 00:36:04,900
just for the record, the upside down LA is awesome.

653
00:36:06,762 --> 00:36:08,243
The 5950 you can keep it.

654
00:36:08,243 --> 00:36:10,985
I know little something about the head.

655
00:36:10,985 --> 00:36:12,066
That's not a 5950.

656
00:36:12,066 --> 00:36:12,837
That's a snapback.

657
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:15,208
So that's like a 3950 or something.

658
00:36:15,429 --> 00:36:18,762
I know a little something about that.

659
00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,133
Man, don't you come and bring some bad vibes.

660
00:36:22,594 --> 00:36:23,752
There we go.

661
00:36:23,822 --> 00:36:24,527
Ha

662
00:36:24,944 --> 00:36:26,824
We wish one last to so anyway

663
00:36:26,824 --> 00:36:29,174
I have something after what Jesse said.

664
00:36:29,174 --> 00:36:37,614
no, you have to network across and you have to provide value You're not getting around
these people because you are asking for something.

665
00:36:37,614 --> 00:36:39,434
What's that mean?

666
00:36:39,714 --> 00:36:40,974
I value what is it?

667
00:36:40,974 --> 00:36:44,354
Okay, let's start here quickly What is it the thing that you do?

668
00:36:44,354 --> 00:36:47,314
Well that no one else does better than you or what is it the thing that you do?

669
00:36:47,314 --> 00:36:48,614
Forget everyone else What is it?

670
00:36:48,614 --> 00:36:49,534
What is it that you do?

671
00:36:49,534 --> 00:36:50,374
Well?

672
00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:53,772
Do that for someone else who is doing better than you

673
00:36:53,772 --> 00:36:56,147
or what are you willing to do that someone else don't

674
00:36:59,395 --> 00:37:03,679
This is exactly like one of the things about this conversation that I'm kind of thinking
of.

675
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:08,363
This just came to me when you were talking about your point and Jesse, you kind of frame
this nicely.

676
00:37:08,644 --> 00:37:10,726
We're thinking very individualistic right now.

677
00:37:10,726 --> 00:37:11,546
Yeah.

678
00:37:12,588 --> 00:37:18,366
The reason why I love Japanese culture, for instance, have you been been in Japan?

679
00:37:18,366 --> 00:37:22,693
I might be the guy who loves it the most who hasn't been there.

680
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,211
I have not been there.

681
00:37:24,211 --> 00:37:25,342
Oh, you got to get out there.

682
00:37:25,342 --> 00:37:26,112
It's.

683
00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:31,577
Got to get out, got to get out everything that you think is true.

684
00:37:32,298 --> 00:37:34,840
Yeah.

685
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:41,345
So we, you know, just to, you know, bring this back to project, right, we went out there
and premiered our project in Tokyo.

686
00:37:41,385 --> 00:37:43,497
I had been this was my third time going.

687
00:37:43,497 --> 00:37:45,828
This was my brother's first time going.

688
00:37:46,129 --> 00:37:51,793
One of the things you will immediately notice is it's about the collective we not I.

689
00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:02,585
And when you start looking at all of the things that they're able to achieve and that they
give back to the world, their peace, their tranquility, you know, when you think about

690
00:38:02,585 --> 00:38:13,301
thoughtfulness, it's all coming from the perspective of we as we've sat here and we've
given praise to the people who have been in our life, our parents, our mentors, whomever,

691
00:38:13,301 --> 00:38:21,486
as we speak about, you know, pouring into champions and all of these people who we look at
and it's like the Tiger Woods and the blah, blah, blah.

692
00:38:21,486 --> 00:38:22,856
at Denzel Washington.

693
00:38:22,856 --> 00:38:30,130
Denzel Washington's, No, there has been somebody else being selfless, pouring into
somebody.

694
00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:31,750
We've talked about community.

695
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:39,284
So there's like a collective we, so to Jesse's point, like when you think about somebody
who's working at the drive through at Taco Bell right now.

696
00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:46,294
What do you enjoy that the world can take pleasure in?

697
00:38:46,294 --> 00:38:48,116
What is it that you can provide?

698
00:38:48,116 --> 00:38:50,638
And sometimes, no, it doesn't have to always be creative.

699
00:38:50,638 --> 00:38:54,000
Sometimes you might just be a hard worker.

700
00:38:55,382 --> 00:38:58,004
There's gonna be a point where you're working for yourself.

701
00:38:58,364 --> 00:39:10,334
But I've at least found within my career, and some of the people, like when we think of
billionaires and people who have mass crazy wealth, they all have provided something.

702
00:39:10,424 --> 00:39:11,734
for others.

703
00:39:12,195 --> 00:39:12,955
You know what I mean?

704
00:39:12,955 --> 00:39:22,641
I found that when I've been charitable or created opportunity, even with this film, yes,
this was an idea where I was like, man, I want to direct something.

705
00:39:23,181 --> 00:39:27,944
As soon as I stepped out of that and started thinking like, man, my brother would be
amazing in this.

706
00:39:27,944 --> 00:39:30,926
man, my other brother would be amazing doing the music and stuff like that.

707
00:39:30,926 --> 00:39:33,787
Yo guys, look at the op, look at what we could do.

708
00:39:33,787 --> 00:39:39,212
Once it became a we thing, this just swelled up and became bigger than we could imagine.

709
00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:48,184
And that's just one example, but I do think like the more we step out of our own and we
think to ourself, okay, like I'm here on this earth.

710
00:39:48,785 --> 00:39:51,065
There's probably a reason why I'm here.

711
00:39:51,145 --> 00:39:54,266
What is the thing I enjoy or what is something that I'm very good at?

712
00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:57,467
And to Jesse's point, can I start doing it locally?

713
00:39:57,467 --> 00:39:59,488
Can I start doing it to the people around me?

714
00:39:59,488 --> 00:40:02,648
Even if it's just an act of kindness, well then how can I get involved?

715
00:40:02,648 --> 00:40:08,976
Cause maybe that kindness might help me to go work at a halfway house or go help somebody
who's unhoused.

716
00:40:08,976 --> 00:40:11,346
up panels in the middle of the night.

717
00:40:11,346 --> 00:40:19,230
But no for real though, but like that that leads those certain opportunities lead to
something So like you just said sometimes it's preparation and then the opportunity

718
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:28,375
presenting it so you are preparing however it may be preparing a skill set but you're
thinking in an Effort to help somebody else does that make sense?

719
00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:33,390
I think there's the collective we that we should consider when we're thinking about
building up

720
00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:35,461
putting service into the world.

721
00:40:35,461 --> 00:40:39,733
is what it, mean, cause yeah.

722
00:40:39,733 --> 00:40:46,466
At the end of the day, yeah, Apple might have a trillion dollars, but look at how much
shit their products put into the world.

723
00:40:46,466 --> 00:40:47,246
You know what I mean?

724
00:40:47,246 --> 00:40:49,848
Look at how many, everybody has an iPhone.

725
00:40:49,848 --> 00:40:50,224
You know what mean?

726
00:40:50,224 --> 00:40:51,298
And Amazon, same thing.

727
00:40:51,298 --> 00:40:59,703
like, you, these are very capitalistic companies, but at the same time, the services and
the convenience that they're pouring into the world, this is why they make so

728
00:40:59,703 --> 00:41:01,634
a surface level, like when we talk about music, right?

729
00:41:01,634 --> 00:41:09,309
When we think about like popular musicians who have now like crossed the billion dollar
mark, when we talk about the J's, when we talk about the Ye's, the Rihanna and whatnot, it

730
00:41:09,309 --> 00:41:11,450
wasn't the music that got them there.

731
00:41:11,751 --> 00:41:12,892
Product.

732
00:41:13,272 --> 00:41:16,354
Tangible product that people can use.

733
00:41:16,354 --> 00:41:17,975
You know, but it's not about them.

734
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:19,556
Everybody needs some shoes.

735
00:41:20,317 --> 00:41:22,379
People gonna want some makeup for beauty.

736
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,099
You know what I mean?

737
00:41:23,099 --> 00:41:27,346
Like when you start thinking about what is it that we could do?

738
00:41:27,346 --> 00:41:33,680
Yeah, there's a selfish uh motivation of like, want to build a company.

739
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,371
This is what I want to put out there.

740
00:41:35,371 --> 00:41:39,154
But there's also the like, how can everybody else benefit from this?

741
00:41:39,154 --> 00:41:40,182
You know what I mean?

742
00:41:40,182 --> 00:41:42,615
and how can everybody use their skills to help build.

743
00:41:42,615 --> 00:41:43,054
Yeah.

744
00:41:43,054 --> 00:41:43,814
What do think about that?

745
00:41:43,814 --> 00:41:45,114
You asked him a question.

746
00:41:45,114 --> 00:41:46,594
No, I just wanted them to expound on it.

747
00:41:46,594 --> 00:41:47,154
was great.

748
00:41:47,154 --> 00:41:47,814
That's what I'm saying.

749
00:41:47,814 --> 00:41:49,954
That's what I think people need to hear more.

750
00:41:50,014 --> 00:41:55,074
We hear so much negativity, but y'all just gave a good positive outlook on that.

751
00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:58,060
And even going back to how to work the room, right?

752
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:59,781
What rooms are you in?

753
00:41:59,982 --> 00:42:06,806
We were in room and then he goes, see, this is why I don't come to these types of rooms.

754
00:42:07,247 --> 00:42:18,545
I won't say what it was, but it was, we were all the same in the sense of, I have to put
myself in a position that is going to push me forward, right?

755
00:42:18,545 --> 00:42:22,334
Now, if I'm on a diet or if I'm making

756
00:42:22,334 --> 00:42:23,556
healthier lifestyle changes.

757
00:42:23,556 --> 00:42:26,059
I don't need to be in a room full of people who are eating.

758
00:42:26,059 --> 00:42:31,566
em

759
00:42:31,566 --> 00:42:32,826
It's like, you know what I mean?

760
00:42:32,826 --> 00:42:35,386
Like, I should be at an air wine.

761
00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:36,726
You know what I mean?

762
00:42:37,106 --> 00:42:38,546
I be somewhere with a salad.

763
00:42:38,546 --> 00:42:40,126
That's where I should be.

764
00:42:40,157 --> 00:42:43,532
then here goes the excuses because we don't talk about the excuses and how to combat
these.

765
00:42:43,532 --> 00:42:45,184
Well I can't afford the Airwine, okay?

766
00:42:45,184 --> 00:42:47,009
Well there's the Ralphs, I can't afford the Kroger, okay?

767
00:42:47,009 --> 00:42:48,119
Well there's the Trader Joe's.

768
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,521
Can't afford the Trader Joe's.

769
00:42:49,521 --> 00:42:50,761
What are you eating?

770
00:42:52,206 --> 00:42:54,193
You put the trade below the right

771
00:42:54,193 --> 00:42:56,679
Well, no, no, no, no, I'm just, just pecking order.

772
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,123
Well, Trader Joe's not my house.

773
00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:03,246
It was a price man.

774
00:43:03,246 --> 00:43:06,630
Oh, man, listen, I feel more comfortable in a Trader Joe's than I do a Ralph's note.

775
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:08,161
Absolutely.

776
00:43:08,161 --> 00:43:09,612
Yeah, sponsor us.

777
00:43:10,106 --> 00:43:15,429
I used to work for Kroger, so I know what it's like paper or plastic in a predominantly
Jewish community.

778
00:43:15,429 --> 00:43:16,529
And you know what's so funny?

779
00:43:16,529 --> 00:43:19,450
They saw something in me that I didn't see.

780
00:43:19,571 --> 00:43:25,366
And so the first book that a Jewish guy gave me to read, he didn't give me anything
because why would he do that?

781
00:43:25,366 --> 00:43:26,850
But I'll tell you what to do.

782
00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:28,015
You should have!

783
00:43:28,284 --> 00:43:29,806
That's what he should read

784
00:43:29,806 --> 00:43:33,166
And this is the book, Learn to Earn, Peter Lynch.

785
00:43:33,446 --> 00:43:42,266
And I took that book and I read it and then that led me into other conversations with
other people and I read the book and then, well, what did you, I like this part and I

786
00:43:42,266 --> 00:43:43,146
didn't understand this part.

787
00:43:43,146 --> 00:43:45,646
And then that conversation leads to, oh, well, you might want to read this.

788
00:43:45,646 --> 00:43:50,506
And then, and now you start to go down the rabbit hole into self-improvement wealth.

789
00:43:50,506 --> 00:43:58,026
And then from there you go, oh, well, it takes a village in order to get somewhere or do
something.

790
00:43:58,038 --> 00:44:07,218
So if we figured out that a group of men about 10 years behind me, have we collectively
figured out what the hell we're doing here and what we're supposed to do?

791
00:44:07,598 --> 00:44:08,322
There you go.

792
00:44:08,322 --> 00:44:08,762
That's it.

793
00:44:08,762 --> 00:44:09,112
at all.

794
00:44:09,112 --> 00:44:09,873
many people try to answer.

795
00:44:09,873 --> 00:44:10,223
Yeah.

796
00:44:10,223 --> 00:44:12,964
And it's like, neither of us.

797
00:44:13,804 --> 00:44:16,725
I just know what feels good and it feels good to help other people.

798
00:44:16,725 --> 00:44:19,366
oh

799
00:44:25,452 --> 00:44:27,243
We're all so different though.

800
00:44:27,243 --> 00:44:32,005
He's feel, he's very like technical, like strategic.

801
00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:34,966
Like we're going to hit whatever we're aiming for.

802
00:44:35,187 --> 00:44:37,648
And I'm very much so intuitive.

803
00:44:37,648 --> 00:44:39,088
I have the gut instinct.

804
00:44:39,088 --> 00:44:42,348
Like I have that killer instinct, but we're all some killers.

805
00:44:42,348 --> 00:44:43,892
he's the why not guy.

806
00:44:44,589 --> 00:44:45,469
What?

807
00:44:45,678 --> 00:44:46,838
Oh no, why not?

808
00:44:46,838 --> 00:44:47,778
You're the naysayer.

809
00:44:47,778 --> 00:44:48,478
He's holding you back.

810
00:44:48,478 --> 00:44:49,638
that what's going on

811
00:44:55,218 --> 00:45:00,761
He thinks that he goes, well, these are all the angles of how this could go.

812
00:45:00,761 --> 00:45:04,043
I'm like half the thinking, half feel.

813
00:45:04,073 --> 00:45:05,164
but it feel right in the bucket.

814
00:45:05,164 --> 00:45:05,591
Let's do it.

815
00:45:05,591 --> 00:45:08,065
I need to feel And then he's like, I mean, why not?

816
00:45:08,065 --> 00:45:08,846
We can try.

817
00:45:08,846 --> 00:45:09,926
How did you see?

818
00:45:10,733 --> 00:45:11,930
Great question.

819
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:15,950
Yeah, we met going to auditions.

820
00:45:16,210 --> 00:45:18,370
For years, for years.

821
00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:19,150
You know what mean?

822
00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:20,350
Because both young actors.

823
00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:21,350
So I moved to L.A.

824
00:45:21,350 --> 00:45:22,390
when I was 17.

825
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:24,710
And that's probably when we started actually seeing each other in the world.

826
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:27,549
And then, you know, so I showed her for years.

827
00:45:27,549 --> 00:45:35,210
And then finally, one day we were like, I always say it's that that acting thing where
it's like, you know, two young black actors, we going out for the same stuff.

828
00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:40,070
We we've been in the game a long time, but we still ain't really figured out where we are
now, where it's like.

829
00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:43,350
Oh yeah, like we're gonna do two completely different things, bro.

830
00:45:44,190 --> 00:45:50,130
We can help each other with the same audition, because it's like, he's going to do
something completely different than what I'm gonna do.

831
00:45:50,130 --> 00:45:52,270
And it's in two different vessels.

832
00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:54,810
So if you want this, you don't want that.

833
00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:56,530
If you want that, you don't want this.

834
00:45:56,530 --> 00:45:57,530
You know what I mean?

835
00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:57,998
So.

836
00:45:57,998 --> 00:45:59,461
And I'm what you don't want.

837
00:46:00,046 --> 00:46:03,828
Yeah, help South LA come into this shit.

838
00:46:04,838 --> 00:46:05,642
so.

839
00:46:05,642 --> 00:46:10,566
What's interesting about that is like we were sitting in a I remember the waiting room.

840
00:46:10,566 --> 00:46:13,187
It was somewhere off of like Sunset Gower or whatnot.

841
00:46:13,248 --> 00:46:14,589
And we would just chill.

842
00:46:14,589 --> 00:46:17,431
And again, very, very approachable, very friendly.

843
00:46:17,431 --> 00:46:19,813
uh There was somebody who was in the room.

844
00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:22,362
And I think we made a remark about somebody who was in the room.

845
00:46:22,362 --> 00:46:25,517
I was like, man, you know, always see you on these auditions, blah, blah, blah.

846
00:46:25,517 --> 00:46:26,258
Likewise.

847
00:46:26,258 --> 00:46:27,639
And so my show was a first.

848
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,321
I was like, man, go in there, you know, kill it.

849
00:46:30,321 --> 00:46:31,534
And he was like, thanks.

850
00:46:31,534 --> 00:46:32,277
It's not as good as me.

851
00:46:32,277 --> 00:46:34,670
oh

852
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:42,943
You know what it is, And to Maestro's point, it's one of those things, after you go out on
so many of these jobs, you already know it's like either you go and get it you're not.

853
00:46:42,943 --> 00:46:49,573
You are gonna present the best flavor of what you do, and that is up to the people who are
looking for the person.

854
00:46:49,573 --> 00:46:50,939
It has- oh

855
00:46:50,939 --> 00:46:51,961
the gym.

856
00:46:51,961 --> 00:46:53,724
Nigga, you still keep coming, huh?

857
00:46:53,724 --> 00:46:56,227
I keep coming here too.

858
00:46:57,891 --> 00:46:59,694
You keep showing up.

859
00:46:59,694 --> 00:47:01,976
I ain't seen you done either, but you still.

860
00:47:01,976 --> 00:47:04,069
why they can't get rid of me.

861
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:05,549
I'm let you know right now.

862
00:47:05,549 --> 00:47:08,434
I'm the cockroach that keeps, I'm the mice problem.

863
00:47:08,434 --> 00:47:09,795
I keep showing up.

864
00:47:09,795 --> 00:47:12,062
I keep eating through the walls to get what I want.

865
00:47:12,062 --> 00:47:13,384
Nevertheless, really quickly.

866
00:47:13,384 --> 00:47:19,426
So, show comes out of the room, uh give him, know, his praise, whatever, and he's like,
man, go in there, do it.

867
00:47:19,426 --> 00:47:20,931
So we're like, yeah, we should hang out.

868
00:47:20,931 --> 00:47:23,117
Total actor bullshit that most people say.

869
00:47:23,117 --> 00:47:24,415
We should hang out.

870
00:47:24,415 --> 00:47:26,897
And we were like, no, let's actually do it.

871
00:47:26,897 --> 00:47:31,562
So I remember we picked a date while we were sitting there, and we were like, okay, well,
I'm gonna hit you up on this date.

872
00:47:31,562 --> 00:47:32,422
uh

873
00:47:32,814 --> 00:47:37,134
That was a moment in my life where I was trying to be really intentional with like
planning shit.

874
00:47:37,134 --> 00:47:39,494
And my shit will tell you, I always send out calendar invites.

875
00:47:39,494 --> 00:47:40,514
That's what I do.

876
00:47:40,514 --> 00:47:42,174
I try to stick to what I say.

877
00:47:42,174 --> 00:47:47,214
like, this was me forming that habit and I hit him up that day.

878
00:47:47,214 --> 00:47:48,398
He was like, cool, come through.

879
00:47:48,398 --> 00:47:51,978
Immediately, we just connected off of music, vibes, and whatnot.

880
00:47:51,978 --> 00:47:54,598
Misha was putting together an album.

881
00:47:54,598 --> 00:47:56,278
He was doing EDM at the time.

882
00:47:56,278 --> 00:47:57,478
He needed some photos.

883
00:47:57,478 --> 00:47:58,278
We were like, cool.

884
00:47:58,278 --> 00:48:02,158
We put something in motion, and we just immediately started working together.

885
00:48:02,158 --> 00:48:05,586
And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, y'all met through work, right?

886
00:48:05,586 --> 00:48:12,732
No, we met through, uh, he went to, so he went to, uh, SAE.

887
00:48:13,754 --> 00:48:16,834
So then he introduced us and then.

888
00:48:16,834 --> 00:48:20,435
He became good friends and then they were best friends.

889
00:48:20,435 --> 00:48:23,396
So I went to school with one of his best friends.

890
00:48:23,596 --> 00:48:29,198
And I used to take him up to his house in Hollywood Hills.

891
00:48:29,498 --> 00:48:31,069
And I had like a little Honda.

892
00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:33,510
was pushing some, I'm just, it's putt-putt.

893
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:34,360
We putt-puttin' up.

894
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,701
You know what I'm Dabba Mo, hi.

895
00:48:37,701 --> 00:48:39,542
You know, at the time I was like big smoker.

896
00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:41,062
uh

897
00:48:42,862 --> 00:48:43,866
I was just like...

898
00:48:43,866 --> 00:48:44,586
doing my work.

899
00:48:44,586 --> 00:48:45,346
Let's go.

900
00:48:45,346 --> 00:48:46,366
go.

901
00:48:46,366 --> 00:48:46,806
Let's do it.

902
00:48:46,806 --> 00:48:47,662
I know what I'm here for.

903
00:48:47,662 --> 00:48:51,042
God would just be like, can you just like, yo, can you slide me into my man's crib?

904
00:48:51,042 --> 00:48:52,242
Like, for sure, what's of that?

905
00:48:52,242 --> 00:48:52,882
Right off the hill.

906
00:48:52,882 --> 00:48:54,942
It's like, no, it's a mall up.

907
00:48:56,056 --> 00:48:57,970
This is a 1996 Honda LX.

908
00:48:59,342 --> 00:49:09,870
I don't but one day we met because we became really good friends and then through his best
friends and then we became good friends.

909
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:10,550
Yeah.

910
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:15,310
And then also it was just I know what it was for me though.

911
00:49:15,310 --> 00:49:22,090
was like he always had like a same thing with him.

912
00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:23,750
It's a work ethic.

913
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:29,030
Like he will put in the work and he will.

914
00:49:30,154 --> 00:49:34,434
I've had a lot of people I love in my life just don't have that killer instinct.

915
00:49:34,434 --> 00:49:36,176
They just don't have it.

916
00:49:36,176 --> 00:49:39,467
I'm not saying that it can't be learned or unlearned.

917
00:49:39,467 --> 00:49:42,038
I don't know, but I just know that it doesn't show up.

918
00:49:42,038 --> 00:49:48,309
so oh seeing him and seeing just how he maneuvered, just even the fact that like, man,
well let's do it.

919
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:49,374
Well, you know what?

920
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:54,621
If there's a problem, he will suggest a solution.

921
00:49:54,781 --> 00:49:57,610
And that's the only kind of people I would like.

922
00:49:57,610 --> 00:49:58,681
Okay, there's a problem.

923
00:49:58,681 --> 00:49:59,052
get it.

924
00:49:59,052 --> 00:50:00,773
So what are we gonna do?

925
00:50:00,773 --> 00:50:04,027
uh He's always on point.

926
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:06,069
That's one thing I think I realized that early.

927
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:09,161
And I was like, man, so then we started with music.

928
00:50:10,446 --> 00:50:11,306
And now it's.

929
00:50:11,306 --> 00:50:12,308
It ain't

930
00:50:20,162 --> 00:50:23,490
What, Are you just talking about life or Jesse?

931
00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:26,144
Well, we're starting with Jesse, but I like, you say that about one person?

932
00:50:26,144 --> 00:50:27,021
Doesn't apply to everybody.

933
00:50:27,021 --> 00:50:28,890
No, I you bless.

934
00:50:28,898 --> 00:50:31,662
that favored favorite.

935
00:50:31,662 --> 00:50:37,482
same thing, what Mike just said, I will second that, is that Jesse, he is a hard worker.

936
00:50:37,482 --> 00:50:42,482
Jesse shows up when you ask him to be there, he is gonna be there on time or maybe a few
minutes late.

937
00:50:42,958 --> 00:50:43,749
It's a bomb.

938
00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:46,486
He's the reason why you two sitting at the end of the table.

939
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,435
Bye!

940
00:50:48,462 --> 00:50:52,462
But he's still going to show up and he's going to put the work in.

941
00:50:52,462 --> 00:50:55,982
And if you ask something of him, he's going to get the job done.

942
00:50:56,542 --> 00:51:02,242
And to Maestro's point, like that's who we surround ourselves with.

943
00:51:03,282 --> 00:51:04,258
You can't pay.

944
00:51:04,258 --> 00:51:07,638
can you speak to picking roles that you audition for?

945
00:51:07,638 --> 00:51:12,614
Like what makes you see something that comes up that's like, I might want to do that or
no, I don't want to do that.

946
00:51:12,614 --> 00:51:22,994
We just funny we just was talking about this at this panel So one of the things now a it's
you know knowing the roles you always get cast for that's like one thing Because it's

947
00:51:22,994 --> 00:51:30,474
typecast and also, you know, obviously being a white guy who generally has braids like
what like I'm not getting I was made the joke I'm not getting interrogated anymore.

948
00:51:30,474 --> 00:51:34,174
Like like that's like a constantly a thing, you know what I mean?

949
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,714
And it's sometimes it's like okay.

950
00:51:35,714 --> 00:51:37,914
What what is this moving forward?

951
00:51:37,914 --> 00:51:38,614
You know what I mean?

952
00:51:38,614 --> 00:51:41,112
Like getting interrogated and being like

953
00:51:41,112 --> 00:51:43,243
Thug number three on SVU, like what are we doing?

954
00:51:43,243 --> 00:51:51,727
oh But you know, also I will say though, if you're not in the position where you've been
working for a like I have footage of that.

955
00:51:51,727 --> 00:51:53,107
I don't need no more footage of that.

956
00:51:53,107 --> 00:51:55,858
Y'all got all the footage you need of me doing that kinds of stuff.

957
00:51:55,858 --> 00:51:56,509
You know what I mean?

958
00:51:56,509 --> 00:51:58,609
Playing criminal, got tons of that.

959
00:51:58,609 --> 00:52:03,782
So it's like, if I wanna move my career forward, maybe that's not what I need to be doing.

960
00:52:03,782 --> 00:52:09,634
But now I will say if you're an actor or somebody who has it, you might not have footage
of that.

961
00:52:09,634 --> 00:52:10,984
What if you always play the nerd?

962
00:52:10,984 --> 00:52:12,475
This might be great for you.

963
00:52:12,475 --> 00:52:13,325
You see what I mean?

964
00:52:13,325 --> 00:52:17,036
So it's like, it's not a one size fits all type of thing.

965
00:52:17,036 --> 00:52:20,887
You know, it just, depends on once again, what you see in your head.

966
00:52:20,887 --> 00:52:23,038
And I think that's the number one.

967
00:52:23,038 --> 00:52:31,780
Our entire conversation always comes back to like, if you don't have a picture in your
head of what you want out of life, you will get nothing.

968
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:35,981
Because if you have nothing up there, life will hand you nothing.

969
00:52:35,981 --> 00:52:37,982
Because it's too open-ended.

970
00:52:37,982 --> 00:52:39,054
It could be anything.

971
00:52:39,054 --> 00:52:40,975
uh You know what I mean?

972
00:52:40,975 --> 00:52:47,638
Yes, if I decide, go, man, you know what, when I get older, bro, I'm gonna get this money,
nigga, I'm gonna be in Nantucket on a sailboat showing.

973
00:52:47,638 --> 00:52:55,741
If that is the life I decide I want, I guarantee you the moves I make will align with
being in Nantucket on a fucking sailboat.

974
00:52:56,321 --> 00:52:57,112
But that's it.

975
00:52:57,112 --> 00:53:01,864
But if you don't know what you have up there, then you have no direction.

976
00:53:01,864 --> 00:53:03,645
So now you're just doing shit.

977
00:53:03,645 --> 00:53:07,146
And that's one of the, I feel like, worst things.

978
00:53:08,142 --> 00:53:16,802
It's one of the worst loops you can ever end up in because you feel like you're not
getting anywhere, but you're also not putting enough time into anything to get anywhere.

979
00:53:17,202 --> 00:53:19,322
And you have no blueprint.

980
00:53:19,962 --> 00:53:25,882
So, you know, at least start with the blueprint of, like I said, is at least somebody
who's, know, oh, they have the career I want.

981
00:53:25,882 --> 00:53:27,122
What kind of roles did they do?

982
00:53:27,122 --> 00:53:28,442
Or they have the life that I want.

983
00:53:28,442 --> 00:53:29,922
What kind of moves did they make?

984
00:53:29,922 --> 00:53:30,842
Huh, what's the deal?

985
00:53:30,842 --> 00:53:31,482
You know what I mean?

986
00:53:31,482 --> 00:53:34,342
Like you have to find that.

987
00:53:34,342 --> 00:53:36,322
at least you have a, okay, so this is possible.

988
00:53:36,322 --> 00:53:37,162
This is possible.

989
00:53:37,162 --> 00:53:38,282
This is possible.

990
00:53:38,862 --> 00:53:41,962
Now how do I, like you always say, how do I remix this for me now?

991
00:53:41,962 --> 00:53:46,562
How do I flip this for Okay, so I know I got, I might not have this stuff, but I got these
pieces.

992
00:53:46,562 --> 00:53:48,878
So this aligns, how can I get, you know.

993
00:53:48,878 --> 00:53:50,528
So what's your Nantucket?

994
00:53:50,582 --> 00:53:51,116
Hmm.

995
00:53:51,116 --> 00:53:51,803
Mmm!

996
00:53:51,803 --> 00:53:52,797
Boom!

997
00:53:54,542 --> 00:53:55,494
Hmm.

998
00:53:55,870 --> 00:53:57,242
I haven't traveled enough.

999
00:53:57,242 --> 00:53:58,103
No, no, real shit.

1000
00:53:58,103 --> 00:54:01,376
I haven't traveled enough to know where where I want that.

1001
00:54:01,376 --> 00:54:04,560
I want to know where it No.

1002
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:04,930
OK.

1003
00:54:04,930 --> 00:54:05,961
I like it.

1004
00:54:05,961 --> 00:54:07,744
For example, I haven't been to the Hamptons.

1005
00:54:07,744 --> 00:54:09,045
I want to see what the fuck that's like.

1006
00:54:09,045 --> 00:54:10,857
I think I want to be a Hamptons kind of guy.

1007
00:54:10,857 --> 00:54:11,308
I don't know.

1008
00:54:11,308 --> 00:54:13,210
We go to have been, but I need to go.

1009
00:54:13,210 --> 00:54:13,662
m

1010
00:54:13,662 --> 00:54:15,446
like for the last three seconds.

1011
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:24,310
West Palm Beach heard it's nice.

1012
00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:25,922
I'd like to be in these kinds of

1013
00:54:25,922 --> 00:54:26,510
Rick.

1014
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:30,118
across the bridge though and it's a totally different town.

1015
00:54:30,281 --> 00:54:30,832
It's real.

1016
00:54:30,832 --> 00:54:31,845
We from Chicago.

1017
00:54:31,845 --> 00:54:32,597
Yeah, it's real.

1018
00:54:32,597 --> 00:54:33,283
he

1019
00:54:33,283 --> 00:54:34,732
yeah, well I'm used to that.

1020
00:54:34,732 --> 00:54:35,694
It's the connect.

1021
00:54:35,694 --> 00:54:37,334
going a sponsor for all of you though.

1022
00:54:38,434 --> 00:54:39,674
It's It's that crazy.

1023
00:54:39,674 --> 00:54:39,774
Right.

1024
00:54:39,774 --> 00:54:42,974
Guys, drive all the way up the west coast of or the east coast of Florida.

1025
00:54:42,974 --> 00:54:44,514
I just did it.

1026
00:54:44,594 --> 00:54:47,754
me and Jenna, I just come up with these crazy things we want to do.

1027
00:54:47,754 --> 00:54:52,274
Uh and I said because we opened up in Florida, the real estate company that runs operating
in six states now.

1028
00:54:52,274 --> 00:54:52,974
Oh, nice.

1029
00:54:52,974 --> 00:54:57,794
And I said, if we're going to operate in the state and I'm going to be responsible for
running it, I'm to know the state.

1030
00:54:57,794 --> 00:54:58,234
There you go.

1031
00:54:58,234 --> 00:54:59,374
We're going to do the work.

1032
00:54:59,374 --> 00:54:59,894
There you go.

1033
00:54:59,894 --> 00:55:01,554
Doesn't matter the money think I have all that.

1034
00:55:01,554 --> 00:55:02,254
We're going to fly down.

1035
00:55:02,254 --> 00:55:03,874
They're going to start Pensacola.

1036
00:55:04,846 --> 00:55:11,106
and we drove drove the entire coast of Florida and all the way back up in eight days.

1037
00:55:11,106 --> 00:55:11,546
Wow.

1038
00:55:11,546 --> 00:55:17,046
And stopped in a different city, stayed in a different hotel, went to the beaches, looked
at the real estate companies and did the thing.

1039
00:55:17,266 --> 00:55:20,746
I thought I knew eight days.

1040
00:55:21,466 --> 00:55:23,286
And so she was she along for the ride.

1041
00:55:23,286 --> 00:55:24,786
Hey, we stayed in nice places though.

1042
00:55:24,786 --> 00:55:25,866
went downtown Naples.

1043
00:55:25,866 --> 00:55:28,398
We're at we're at the Inn on Fifth.

1044
00:55:28,398 --> 00:55:28,958
I mean, we're there.

1045
00:55:28,958 --> 00:55:31,651
I if you're going to do this with me, we're going to do it the right way.

1046
00:55:31,651 --> 00:55:35,443
And then we ended up in Key West on New Year's.

1047
00:55:37,926 --> 00:55:38,687
I got the videos.

1048
00:55:38,687 --> 00:55:39,187
I'll show you.

1049
00:55:39,187 --> 00:55:41,468
We got a video.

1050
00:55:41,789 --> 00:55:44,041
But when we came, it was cool.

1051
00:55:44,041 --> 00:55:44,732
We stayed in.

1052
00:55:44,732 --> 00:55:50,767
We ended up in Fort Waterdale um and we saw one of the space SpaceX rockets go out.

1053
00:55:50,767 --> 00:55:51,647
that was cool.

1054
00:55:51,647 --> 00:55:51,848
Right.

1055
00:55:51,848 --> 00:55:53,199
So you just go out do stuff.

1056
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:54,129
It'd be a great experience.

1057
00:55:54,129 --> 00:55:57,502
But yeah, we went out to

1058
00:55:58,412 --> 00:56:00,047
We drove all of the islands.

1059
00:56:00,047 --> 00:56:01,446
We'd go out to all of

1060
00:56:03,098 --> 00:56:07,841
and those hundred and two hundred and three hundred, I'm sure you've been to some of them.

1061
00:56:07,841 --> 00:56:08,841
You might have been.

1062
00:56:08,841 --> 00:56:20,588
But these hundred and two hundred and three hundred million dollar houses and estates now,
it lines starting in Miami and going for one hundred and fifty miles.

1063
00:56:21,449 --> 00:56:22,929
It's a world.

1064
00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:27,902
I think every poor kid, I wish somebody would have took the eight year old poor kid to
that.

1065
00:56:27,902 --> 00:56:28,752
Yeah.

1066
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:30,838
To see what's possible.

1067
00:56:30,838 --> 00:56:32,192
It's exposure.

1068
00:56:32,192 --> 00:56:33,865
You cannot buy it.

1069
00:56:34,971 --> 00:56:36,238
do this.

1070
00:56:36,238 --> 00:56:37,498
do this, right?

1071
00:56:37,498 --> 00:56:41,298
And so, but when I went out, when we were there, I was mesmerized.

1072
00:56:41,298 --> 00:56:44,038
I'm telling you, my neck's snapping this way and snapping this way.

1073
00:56:44,038 --> 00:56:45,918
just like, what is going on here, right?

1074
00:56:45,918 --> 00:56:47,158
What is going on here, right?

1075
00:56:47,158 --> 00:56:48,958
And so it's wild.

1076
00:56:49,398 --> 00:56:52,498
but then I was like, man, I gotta use restroom.

1077
00:56:52,498 --> 00:56:54,858
We're stuck on these islands and these aisles.

1078
00:56:54,858 --> 00:57:02,776
And so literally drove over a canal from where the breakers are in West Palm, saw what's

1079
00:57:02,776 --> 00:57:03,508
Trump's place.

1080
00:57:03,508 --> 00:57:03,899
is that?

1081
00:57:03,899 --> 00:57:04,591
Mar-a-Lago.

1082
00:57:04,591 --> 00:57:05,704
Mar-a-Lago.

1083
00:57:05,704 --> 00:57:06,830
It's all blocked off and everything.

1084
00:57:06,830 --> 00:57:07,680
Drove over.

1085
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,210
And y'all, it's a different world.

1086
00:57:10,210 --> 00:57:11,301
That's crazy.

1087
00:57:11,301 --> 00:57:12,141
didn't know that it's that.

1088
00:57:12,141 --> 00:57:15,636
Aha.

1089
00:57:15,636 --> 00:57:16,527
OK, that's it.

1090
00:57:16,527 --> 00:57:17,348
So they just come in.

1091
00:57:17,348 --> 00:57:19,400
That's what it it's like Los Angeles.

1092
00:57:19,681 --> 00:57:23,278
Skid Row is only 20 minutes away from Beverly Hills.

1093
00:57:23,278 --> 00:57:26,431
eh It's just incredible that I'm not kidding y'all.

1094
00:57:26,431 --> 00:57:31,165
It is a state after a state and it's just miles and miles and miles.

1095
00:57:31,165 --> 00:57:36,170
And what I want people to do is, it's important that we have this proper perspective.

1096
00:57:36,571 --> 00:57:41,014
I would hope that poor kid, I would hope that he wouldn't be mad about it.

1097
00:57:41,175 --> 00:57:42,496
That's what the world's gotta figure out.

1098
00:57:42,496 --> 00:57:45,558
The poor kid said, I see where I'm coming from.

1099
00:57:46,099 --> 00:57:47,581
I'm not mad at these people.

1100
00:57:47,581 --> 00:57:49,021
I see what's possible.

1101
00:57:49,021 --> 00:57:49,944
Yes.

1102
00:57:50,210 --> 00:58:01,074
That kid I feel like a lot of times once again and a lot of times that kid gets He gets
roped into that thought process because the people around that maybe the older people

1103
00:58:01,074 --> 00:58:13,968
around him or her who Couldn't do some of these things didn't or didn't yeah exactly
straight up didn't yep ah They speak down on and they they make you feel like well, that's

1104
00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,374
just that's over there

1105
00:58:15,374 --> 00:58:21,067
That's, know, they always do like, no, it's not, no, but that doesn't have to be the case.

1106
00:58:21,067 --> 00:58:21,777
You know what I mean?

1107
00:58:21,777 --> 00:58:25,019
It could be a very different, but it all starts with what's being said in the home.

1108
00:58:25,019 --> 00:58:31,321
Cause I don't think, I think a eight year old will look at that and go, you know, kids
have imagination.

1109
00:58:31,321 --> 00:58:35,264
So an eight year old can look at that and go, so wait, how do you get one of these?

1110
00:58:35,264 --> 00:58:37,984
And actually like, be trying to figure it out.

1111
00:58:38,485 --> 00:58:40,758
At a certain age, a lot of people have given up.

1112
00:58:40,758 --> 00:58:45,503
Yeah, and it's not you know, you see the 300 million dollar estate must be nice

1113
00:58:46,734 --> 00:58:50,066
Hold on, what's the, no, what's the, what's the line?

1114
00:58:50,414 --> 00:58:57,816
No, no, no one cares about things you wouldn't buy with money you don't have then it turns
into I would never let all that

1115
00:58:57,816 --> 00:58:58,608
Yes, would.

1116
00:58:58,608 --> 00:59:05,186
uh

1117
00:59:05,186 --> 00:59:08,834
again to rub their coins together

1118
00:59:08,834 --> 00:59:13,096
But that's the most people who have that perspective on things.

1119
00:59:13,096 --> 00:59:14,881
I would never spend that on this.

1120
00:59:14,881 --> 00:59:16,466
That makes no sense.

1121
00:59:16,466 --> 00:59:22,693
Line up that $60 million private jet down there and me to have my three million a year I
can pay for you kiss my ass.

1122
00:59:22,994 --> 00:59:26,283
Yeah, and I'm gonna take my friends and my people with me because that's what I care
about.

1123
00:59:26,283 --> 00:59:27,052
that's right.

1124
00:59:27,052 --> 00:59:31,884
I've been dying to say this because you guys, I didn't want to interrupt because this is
your guys' moment.

1125
00:59:31,884 --> 00:59:33,705
I'm glad you guys are in Cincinnati.

1126
00:59:33,705 --> 00:59:40,748
But I've been dying to say we've been talking a lot about oh what people do and uh how
they make money.

1127
00:59:40,748 --> 00:59:52,684
And I think that those get convoluted so much because uh something that Maestro brought up
many times is about what's in the house and what I think they should be teaching in the

1128
00:59:52,684 --> 00:59:53,486
schools.

1129
00:59:53,486 --> 00:59:55,626
is how easy it is to make money.

1130
00:59:55,626 --> 00:59:57,226
Like, so I have two kids, right?

1131
00:59:57,226 --> 01:00:05,506
They both have Roth IRAs and they both have mutual funds to where they're going to be
millionaires no matter what by the time they're 65.

1132
01:00:05,706 --> 01:00:06,886
Like kids don't know that.

1133
01:00:06,886 --> 01:00:12,746
Say a kid that's going to a poor community, that's going to school, they don't know what a
mutual fund is.

1134
01:00:12,746 --> 01:00:16,404
And they don't know how easy it is if you put a hundred dollars a month.

1135
01:00:16,404 --> 01:00:18,457
into that mutual fund.

1136
01:00:18,457 --> 01:00:26,247
If you even start by your 25, you're going to be a millionaire by the time you retire, not
through what you work, but just how you invest.

1137
01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:32,453
And that's just one of the ways how easy it is to make money compared to what you're
actually want to do.

1138
01:00:32,453 --> 01:00:35,257
Like, if you want to act or podcast.

1139
01:00:39,423 --> 01:00:40,596
Easy it is to get

1140
01:00:40,596 --> 01:00:44,065
I think that needs to be taught in the school how to eat, how to

1141
01:00:44,065 --> 01:00:44,788
ways to

1142
01:00:44,788 --> 01:00:46,063
Merry Christmas!

1143
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,953
Yeah.

1144
01:00:47,156 --> 01:00:48,350
and how to pay taxes.

1145
01:00:48,350 --> 01:00:52,000
That would be nice if the school system taught you how to pay taxes.

1146
01:00:52,961 --> 01:00:53,774
Wait, wait,

1147
01:00:53,774 --> 01:00:55,054
He said, is?

1148
01:00:55,054 --> 01:00:56,954
or play the game of taxes?

1149
01:00:56,954 --> 01:00:57,708
Right.

1150
01:00:57,708 --> 01:00:58,561
Taxes, what?

1151
01:00:58,561 --> 01:01:00,878
here, the smart man, say something, let's go!

1152
01:01:00,878 --> 01:01:04,098
Now we got AI, so you're not really going to need to learn how to taxes.

1153
01:01:04,098 --> 01:01:06,938
I mean, the game of taxes, that would be nice too, but you can't get that.

1154
01:01:06,938 --> 01:01:08,077
have to go to the work.

1155
01:01:08,077 --> 01:01:08,698
business.

1156
01:01:08,698 --> 01:01:09,258
No, you don't.

1157
01:01:09,258 --> 01:01:09,978
know what?

1158
01:01:10,758 --> 01:01:11,718
Here's thing.

1159
01:01:11,718 --> 01:01:12,038
Oh.

1160
01:01:12,038 --> 01:01:13,978
Do you all know how the really rich people don't pay taxes?

1161
01:01:13,978 --> 01:01:14,258
I'll tell you.

1162
01:01:14,258 --> 01:01:15,398
Do you all know?

1163
01:01:15,658 --> 01:01:18,218
If you know, you can because I do know.

1164
01:01:19,218 --> 01:01:23,118
acquire an asset and borrow against the asset and they don't pay taxes on it.

1165
01:01:23,657 --> 01:01:25,052
It's like stocks and real estate.

1166
01:01:25,052 --> 01:01:26,217
Say that one more time.

1167
01:01:26,217 --> 01:01:26,866
Rose

1168
01:01:26,866 --> 01:01:27,986
everybody gets pissed off.

1169
01:01:27,986 --> 01:01:29,366
They tried to make this a political thing.

1170
01:01:29,366 --> 01:01:31,366
They tried to make it a Republican thing, a Democrat thing.

1171
01:01:31,366 --> 01:01:32,246
Bullshit.

1172
01:01:32,246 --> 01:01:39,066
All the wealthy people and all their parties and all the religions and everything, all the
wealthy people have learned how to not pay taxes.

1173
01:01:39,066 --> 01:01:43,126
Now, they did pay taxes on the way up unless they came from a really wealthy family.

1174
01:01:43,126 --> 01:01:44,146
But here's what it is.

1175
01:01:44,146 --> 01:01:45,246
You acquire an asset.

1176
01:01:45,246 --> 01:01:45,686
Don't care.

1177
01:01:45,686 --> 01:01:47,326
An asset means something of value.

1178
01:01:47,326 --> 01:01:52,426
An asset could be this iPhone that I'm going to trade in for a 17 in a month.

1179
01:01:52,426 --> 01:01:53,996
going to give me 850 bucks for this.

1180
01:01:53,996 --> 01:01:55,906
Boy, it's a hell of a thing they got hooked up to.

1181
01:01:55,906 --> 01:01:59,628
But that new one's 1500 bucks, but they're going to give me 850.

1182
01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:02,149
So right now the market says that this is worth 850.

1183
01:02:02,149 --> 01:02:03,169
That's an asset.

1184
01:02:03,169 --> 01:02:08,151
So I can go out in the world and say, what would somebody loan me as this being my
leverage?

1185
01:02:08,151 --> 01:02:11,812
Would they loan me 300 bucks, 400 bucks or 500 bucks?

1186
01:02:11,812 --> 01:02:12,392
Somebody may.

1187
01:02:12,392 --> 01:02:13,732
So you take anything.

1188
01:02:13,872 --> 01:02:19,534
If someone would loan me $500 against my asset, it's called a non-taxable event.

1189
01:02:20,632 --> 01:02:23,443
When you borrow money, it is not income.

1190
01:02:24,883 --> 01:02:27,454
It is debt, but you don't pay tax.

1191
01:02:27,454 --> 01:02:30,545
You only pay taxes against earned income.

1192
01:02:30,665 --> 01:02:35,187
On the income that all of us make from the work we do, we pay taxes on that.

1193
01:02:35,187 --> 01:02:40,548
So what you should do is live way below your damn means, save enough money to buy an
asset.

1194
01:02:40,548 --> 01:02:44,750
When that asset grows in value, you get to continue to borrow against the asset.

1195
01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:46,290
And that's how you live.

1196
01:02:46,882 --> 01:02:52,027
You live off the money that you borrow against the asset because you pay no taxes when you
borrow the money.

1197
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:54,020
So here's what happens.

1198
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:58,812
Elon, guys, when he's worth 200 billion or whatever, all he can do is public stuff and not
everybody.

1199
01:02:58,812 --> 01:02:59,426
I guarantee it.

1200
01:02:59,426 --> 01:03:07,681
That guy, if he wants 5 million bucks, he calls up all his accountants, all these people
say, let me borrow 5 million against my stock.

1201
01:03:07,681 --> 01:03:08,597
Right.

1202
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,050
for 3%.

1203
01:03:10,050 --> 01:03:20,456
who knows what but it's also when you become when you have massive wealth, it's called you
also have the reason why it's a low risk is because you get they have debt that you don't

1204
01:03:20,456 --> 01:03:24,458
have personally signed for because the asset is the one securing the debt.

1205
01:03:24,458 --> 01:03:24,898
Right.

1206
01:03:24,898 --> 01:03:27,520
So, they're happy to take your asset if you can't pay for it.

1207
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:27,920
Yeah.

1208
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,501
And so, it's non recourse debt.

1209
01:03:29,501 --> 01:03:34,504
So, once you become really wealthy, you hear all the they get mad that Trump and all these
guys, guys, I'm registered independent.

1210
01:03:34,504 --> 01:03:36,625
All the politicians kiss my **** I don't care all of them.

1211
01:03:36,625 --> 01:03:36,915
Yeah.

1212
01:03:36,915 --> 01:03:37,925
But here's

1213
01:03:39,054 --> 01:03:39,334
don't know.

1214
01:03:39,334 --> 01:03:41,114
They're working with the system was built.

1215
01:03:41,834 --> 01:03:43,754
I'm just telling you, I'm going to work the same system.

1216
01:03:43,754 --> 01:03:44,554
Yeah.

1217
01:03:44,994 --> 01:03:47,093
I want to work the same system, right?

1218
01:03:47,093 --> 01:03:48,994
So I'm like the same game, right?

1219
01:03:52,614 --> 01:03:52,694
Yeah.

1220
01:03:52,694 --> 01:03:57,014
That's a little corrupt, but anyway, said, know what?

1221
01:03:57,014 --> 01:04:02,014
You don't want something to corrupt when I will yell and bitch about it is when everybody
doesn't have the access to the same thing.

1222
01:04:02,574 --> 01:04:03,294
Yeah.

1223
01:04:03,414 --> 01:04:05,258
That's the shit that I will call corrupt.

1224
01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:08,427
And what's the thing that we don't all have access to?

1225
01:04:08,812 --> 01:04:09,262
But.

1226
01:04:09,262 --> 01:04:11,562
Well, you have to take responsibility for that.

1227
01:04:13,642 --> 01:04:20,122
So if you can acquire the whole move in this entire world, some people buy artwork.

1228
01:04:20,122 --> 01:04:20,562
Yeah.

1229
01:04:20,562 --> 01:04:23,062
Some people buy Ferraris, old Ferraris.

1230
01:04:23,062 --> 01:04:23,822
Yeah.

1231
01:04:23,822 --> 01:04:26,282
Wealthy people now buy things.

1232
01:04:26,282 --> 01:04:27,282
They don't care what they are.

1233
01:04:27,282 --> 01:04:29,542
They buy things that are going to appreciate value.

1234
01:04:29,542 --> 01:04:30,182
Absolutely.

1235
01:04:30,182 --> 01:04:34,442
And when things appreciate in value, they don't want anybody to pay them income for
anything.

1236
01:04:34,442 --> 01:04:34,862
Right.

1237
01:04:34,862 --> 01:04:35,082
Right.

1238
01:04:35,082 --> 01:04:36,322
They want to own an asset.

1239
01:04:36,322 --> 01:04:36,942
That's it.

1240
01:04:36,942 --> 01:04:37,882
That's all it's about.

1241
01:04:37,882 --> 01:04:39,072
And so what

1242
01:04:39,072 --> 01:04:42,064
us poor folks when we were young, we got wrongs, we spent the money we made.

1243
01:04:42,064 --> 01:04:42,985
Yeah.

1244
01:04:43,165 --> 01:04:49,169
Where if we would have just saved enough of it to acquire an asset that then grows in
value, then we just borrow against the thing.

1245
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:50,090
That's the whole move.

1246
01:04:50,090 --> 01:04:52,632
And so that's why I want everything in equity now.

1247
01:04:52,632 --> 01:04:53,532
Yeah.

1248
01:04:53,733 --> 01:04:55,835
I don't want anybody to pay me anything.

1249
01:04:55,835 --> 01:04:56,855
I want equity of something.

1250
01:04:56,855 --> 01:04:57,306
Yeah.

1251
01:04:57,306 --> 01:05:01,699
That's probably you guys know the acting world, but that's probably why they want a
percentage of things.

1252
01:05:01,699 --> 01:05:05,866
I don't want 20 million to do the movie because that's going to be 10 million at the end
of that.

1253
01:05:05,866 --> 01:05:09,086
And not only that, the perpetuity of it, you know what I mean?

1254
01:05:09,086 --> 01:05:10,026
It keeps on giving.

1255
01:05:10,026 --> 01:05:12,566
I mean, this is why digital content works well, too, right?

1256
01:05:12,566 --> 01:05:13,846
Because it's like it's evergreen.

1257
01:05:13,846 --> 01:05:16,366
And then you constantly are going to make money off of it.

1258
01:05:16,366 --> 01:05:17,226
is why movies work.

1259
01:05:17,226 --> 01:05:19,806
It's also why music residuals, know what I mean?

1260
01:05:19,806 --> 01:05:24,186
Stevie Wonder, it's like I think it's like seventy thousand to get happy birthday in your
project.

1261
01:05:24,726 --> 01:05:27,506
And that's like for probably like 15 seconds, 10 seconds.

1262
01:05:27,506 --> 01:05:28,146
You know what I mean?

1263
01:05:28,146 --> 01:05:33,688
It's like there's all, you know, when you make intellectual property, intellectual
property is one of the

1264
01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:36,846
greatest assets because it's going to continuously own it.

1265
01:05:36,846 --> 01:05:48,846
That's what makes me mad we're going to LA I moved at one point I was in North Hollywood
and It was still expensive for me at the time, but a house in North Hollywood is $400,000

1266
01:05:48,846 --> 01:05:52,189
Yeah, I was paying rent and now

1267
01:05:52,189 --> 01:05:53,698
It's worth 1.5 to 2 million.

1268
01:05:53,698 --> 01:05:55,063
For sure, no question.

1269
01:05:55,063 --> 01:05:59,914
So like why it really makes me pissed off is the asset.

1270
01:05:59,914 --> 01:06:03,822
Okay, like young people got to realize that why is it better to

1271
01:06:03,822 --> 01:06:05,962
Just young people, not just people.

1272
01:06:06,062 --> 01:06:08,522
see 50 and 60 and 70 year old people.

1273
01:06:08,622 --> 01:06:10,882
What if you own the what can you do though?

1274
01:06:10,882 --> 01:06:14,722
you know, even if you want to move, you paying rent in an apartment, there's nothing.

1275
01:06:14,722 --> 01:06:16,222
You just paid somebody a lot of money.

1276
01:06:16,222 --> 01:06:17,922
If you own the house and everything, guess what?

1277
01:06:17,922 --> 01:06:19,562
You can do in five years.

1278
01:06:20,402 --> 01:06:21,542
You sell it.

1279
01:06:21,622 --> 01:06:26,522
since I'm in real estate, anybody listen to this, y'all want something, some real estate,
16, call the man right here, call the man.

1280
01:06:26,522 --> 01:06:27,642
We'll do some.

1281
01:06:27,642 --> 01:06:28,002
Yeah.

1282
01:06:28,002 --> 01:06:30,922
So I think, if he don't answer, me.

1283
01:06:32,182 --> 01:06:42,682
Cause then he going, accountability going to get that mic right out in front you.

1284
01:06:43,982 --> 01:06:47,182
You were going to say something when I said, Hey, do you know how to build wealth?

1285
01:06:48,303 --> 01:06:50,066
You have some stuff inside of you.

1286
01:06:50,066 --> 01:06:50,377
Sure.

1287
01:06:50,377 --> 01:06:54,034
I didn't want to just take the mic like I did, but what would you say to that?

1288
01:06:55,552 --> 01:06:57,763
No, when you ask, how do you build wealth?

1289
01:06:57,763 --> 01:06:58,093
Right.

1290
01:06:58,093 --> 01:06:58,864
Yeah.

1291
01:06:58,864 --> 01:07:08,949
Instead of me sitting here assuming like I know the answer, even though you gave me the
answer that I was expecting, I don't want to frame that in a way as you so clearly and

1292
01:07:08,949 --> 01:07:10,560
beautifully just framed it for all of us.

1293
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:15,033
So that's what I was pointing to, because I would rather say, please, you indulge me.

1294
01:07:15,033 --> 01:07:18,444
And I would rather play the fool because I could be wrong.

1295
01:07:18,444 --> 01:07:20,656
I could not know the entire way of building wealth.

1296
01:07:20,656 --> 01:07:22,417
You could have just dropped a gem on me.

1297
01:07:22,417 --> 01:07:24,548
But you did reconfirm what I thought.

1298
01:07:24,548 --> 01:07:25,036
So.

1299
01:07:25,036 --> 01:07:27,276
So what's that lesson for life?

1300
01:07:27,276 --> 01:07:30,066
What's the principle and the lesson in that in all things?

1301
01:07:30,530 --> 01:07:31,276
Boom.

1302
01:07:31,276 --> 01:07:32,539
That's good.

1303
01:07:33,690 --> 01:07:36,552
the ego wants to know everything.

1304
01:07:36,552 --> 01:07:42,685
And the greatest lesson that I've ever been taught is you don't know.

1305
01:07:42,685 --> 01:07:43,506
have to know everything.

1306
01:07:43,506 --> 01:07:47,938
And in fact, you shouldn't but continue to grow and want to learn everything.

1307
01:07:47,938 --> 01:07:56,202
Like, you know, when we talk about like accountability and growth and whatnot, a lot of
people don't want to look like fools.

1308
01:07:56,203 --> 01:07:57,713
You know, you see it all the time.

1309
01:07:57,713 --> 01:08:02,894
Like I think to myself, especially with gang culture, uh

1310
01:08:02,894 --> 01:08:07,615
you people who come from nothing, they stand on principles that really mean nothing.

1311
01:08:08,536 --> 01:08:16,979
Like they stand on principles like this is my hood, this is my town, like who are you to
tell me such and such blah, blah, Like who you think you talking to, et cetera.

1312
01:08:16,979 --> 01:08:23,992
Like when you listen to the words that are being said, it's all from a place of, you think
I don't know that?

1313
01:08:23,992 --> 01:08:24,746
Yeah.

1314
01:08:25,112 --> 01:08:25,997
Fragile ego.

1315
01:08:25,997 --> 01:08:29,038
oh Okay, maybe you do, maybe you don't.

1316
01:08:29,818 --> 01:08:38,151
Take a second, maybe like you just did, maybe you could explain something to me or I could
explain something to you and we could further the conversation.

1317
01:08:38,151 --> 01:08:46,565
So I mean, to that point, um I would say the lesson in the interaction that we just had is
don't be afraid to say you don't know anything.

1318
01:08:46,565 --> 01:08:48,005
There's no shame in that.

1319
01:08:48,005 --> 01:08:50,806
Like to say you don't know something or to ask the...

1320
01:08:50,878 --> 01:08:53,169
As Jesse would say, you know, there's no dumb questions.

1321
01:08:53,169 --> 01:08:55,240
Jesse doesn't mind asking a question.

1322
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,591
But one of the one of the things I love about Jesse is he's going to ask the question.

1323
01:08:59,591 --> 01:09:02,512
And he and he doesn't care how that's going to make him look.

1324
01:09:02,512 --> 01:09:08,845
And in fact, he is the one who is growing smarter than anybody in the room because because
he's asking it.

1325
01:09:09,845 --> 01:09:11,066
It does start with curiosity.

1326
01:09:11,066 --> 01:09:11,943
em

1327
01:09:11,943 --> 01:09:13,134
do I do the thing?

1328
01:09:13,134 --> 01:09:14,594
How do I do the thing?

1329
01:09:14,594 --> 01:09:18,235
And then I always say, I always say, have a Denzel and a Maestro.

1330
01:09:18,736 --> 01:09:21,727
I said, I I watched these guys.

1331
01:09:21,727 --> 01:09:27,658
I'm standing, I'm literally standing on their shoulders, eating the same fruits.

1332
01:09:27,658 --> 01:09:29,499
I'm doing the same things.

1333
01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:32,040
So I'm winning because they've won.

1334
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,860
And then they're like, Hey, listen, just help me do the thing.

1335
01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:35,771
And I'm like, what do you need?

1336
01:09:35,771 --> 01:09:38,051
Well, this is just do this.

1337
01:09:38,051 --> 01:09:40,142
It's like, all right, well, we're doing it.

1338
01:09:40,269 --> 01:09:41,999
So, not to lose track of the movie and stuff.

1339
01:09:41,999 --> 01:09:43,320
I'll sit here talk to y'all all day long.

1340
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,871
swear I will, no, but what, what, um, where are you guys going?

1341
01:09:45,871 --> 01:09:47,931
Like that's a big, like where are you going?

1342
01:09:48,131 --> 01:09:49,762
A lot of people say three football.

1343
01:09:49,762 --> 01:09:57,014
I get it, but like, you know, cause you talked about manifestation and seeing the thing,
but where are you going in this world that's changing like this?

1344
01:09:57,014 --> 01:09:57,304
Right.

1345
01:09:57,304 --> 01:09:59,144
Where are you going?

1346
01:10:00,248 --> 01:10:02,509
some later questions in what way.

1347
01:10:02,936 --> 01:10:04,202
for your life to the peak.

1348
01:10:04,202 --> 01:10:06,599
Okay, where are you going?

1349
01:10:06,803 --> 01:10:07,996
What are you building?

1350
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:14,833
legacy, a team, and I think an ecosystem.

1351
01:10:15,533 --> 01:10:25,619
And an ecosystem, I think like, I think the biggest piece of any business is that, is your
team and your ecosystem.

1352
01:10:25,619 --> 01:10:29,521
Like, you know, how do you look at Amazon?

1353
01:10:29,721 --> 01:10:31,722
Just the way that that works.

1354
01:10:31,722 --> 01:10:33,453
Like that, it's incredible.

1355
01:10:33,453 --> 01:10:34,414
You created a system.

1356
01:10:34,414 --> 01:10:38,582
I think the hardest thing in any business is to create that system.

1357
01:10:38,582 --> 01:10:39,773
and a creative, system.

1358
01:10:39,773 --> 01:10:46,310
I just think like, if you can figure that out, you can funnel anything through that.

1359
01:10:46,911 --> 01:10:51,196
And I just think that that's the, know, but everybody has to have a position.

1360
01:10:51,196 --> 01:10:53,398
Everybody has to know their position.

1361
01:10:53,398 --> 01:10:57,802
And you know, you have to, it has to be cohesive, but yeah.

1362
01:10:58,210 --> 01:10:59,623
not to keep pressing, you can shut down.

1363
01:10:59,623 --> 01:11:00,926
But what is the ecosystem?

1364
01:11:00,926 --> 01:11:03,701
Because that can go woo woo for a lot of people.

1365
01:11:04,263 --> 01:11:06,026
Where nothing ever happened.

1366
01:11:06,026 --> 01:11:06,706
fair.

1367
01:11:07,066 --> 01:11:08,046
Well, I'm not saying.

1368
01:11:08,046 --> 01:11:10,166
No, well, then it gets back to specific.

1369
01:11:10,166 --> 01:11:17,026
It depends on the project, because that's another thing, too, because it's not just like
because we're not just like we sell T-shirts.

1370
01:11:17,026 --> 01:11:19,686
If we were just doing that, it would be this is the ecosystem for selling T-shirts.

1371
01:11:19,686 --> 01:11:23,546
I think for films is one thing, for music is another thing.

1372
01:11:23,546 --> 01:11:30,926
And then all the space in between finding where your ecosystem can once again where you
bring value.

1373
01:11:30,926 --> 01:11:32,406
So that's really what it is.

1374
01:11:32,406 --> 01:11:34,412
It's like, what are my skills?

1375
01:11:34,412 --> 01:11:35,913
Where do I bring value?

1376
01:11:35,913 --> 01:11:38,396
And then what's the ecosystem that supports that?

1377
01:11:38,475 --> 01:11:39,136
one more thing.

1378
01:11:39,136 --> 01:11:39,768
Yeah.

1379
01:11:39,768 --> 01:11:43,027
Do you think you brought up Rihanna, think.

1380
01:11:43,027 --> 01:11:43,338
Yeah.

1381
01:11:43,338 --> 01:11:43,919
Beyonce.

1382
01:11:43,919 --> 01:11:47,216
Do you think they thought about bringing value before they did?

1383
01:11:47,928 --> 01:11:48,751
I do.

1384
01:11:48,751 --> 01:11:49,792
You do?

1385
01:11:51,341 --> 01:11:53,070
You don't get there by accident.

1386
01:11:53,070 --> 01:11:58,244
But is there so much talent that maybe something happened and evolved there that they
weren't thinking about bringing about?

1387
01:11:58,534 --> 01:12:01,446
I think that starts with like the once again, why you start, right?

1388
01:12:01,446 --> 01:12:06,598
Because as you go, you start to realize that there's other facets and other things that
are needed.

1389
01:12:06,598 --> 01:12:09,049
So it's just like, when you start, you're just like, I like singing.

1390
01:12:09,049 --> 01:12:10,730
have a good voice.

1391
01:12:10,730 --> 01:12:11,801
People tell me I have a good voice.

1392
01:12:11,801 --> 01:12:13,061
Maybe I'll be a star.

1393
01:12:13,061 --> 01:12:14,272
That's where it starts.

1394
01:12:14,272 --> 01:12:17,823
And then you go and then you start going, okay, so I guess I don't sing.

1395
01:12:17,823 --> 01:12:19,154
I need vocal lessons.

1396
01:12:19,154 --> 01:12:19,564
Okay.

1397
01:12:19,564 --> 01:12:24,346
And then you do that work and then you go to, okay, well, I would love to get signed, but
maybe how does that work?

1398
01:12:24,346 --> 01:12:27,508
nobody wants to write songs for me because I'm fucking nobody.

1399
01:12:27,608 --> 01:12:28,429
writing songs.

1400
01:12:28,429 --> 01:12:29,379
Okay, boom.

1401
01:12:29,379 --> 01:12:31,310
then maybe I started doing my own demo.

1402
01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:38,195
uh You find the pieces you need as you go because you can't, it's like starting a
business, right?

1403
01:12:38,195 --> 01:12:43,438
It's like, you can't fathom all the shit that went wrong when you started your business.

1404
01:12:43,438 --> 01:12:48,782
Oh my God, you would be like, oh that shit, but no, but you get a couple things, right?

1405
01:12:48,782 --> 01:12:50,643
And then you go, wait, what's that?

1406
01:12:50,643 --> 01:12:51,994
Somebody put you on game to something?

1407
01:12:51,994 --> 01:12:54,085
Wait, so shit, I gotta have one of the, oh, fuck.

1408
01:12:54,085 --> 01:12:55,146
Okay, now let me go.

1409
01:12:55,146 --> 01:12:56,198
And then you start running.

1410
01:12:56,198 --> 01:13:00,815
But you but once again, you have this idea in your head and you know where you want to go.

1411
01:13:00,815 --> 01:13:04,250
And then you figure it out and then you meet somebody who maybe helps you out with that.

1412
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:07,325
And you meet somebody who but you never would have met them if you didn't start.

1413
01:13:07,325 --> 01:13:08,110
So it's like.

1414
01:13:08,110 --> 01:13:12,590
I don't think that God lights the path every step that you take.

1415
01:13:12,590 --> 01:13:14,410
There's utterly and complete darkness.

1416
01:13:14,410 --> 01:13:20,030
I don't know if you guys have ever been in a situation where you just couldn't see right
in front of you or if you've been in fog or heavy rain.

1417
01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:24,970
I think that God only gives you enough view to get to the next spot.

1418
01:13:25,210 --> 01:13:34,890
Because like you said, if you knew the pitfalls and the dangers in which you have just
walked into, or the blessings, you wouldn't go.

1419
01:13:35,084 --> 01:13:46,646
And I think that's the blessing in being a part of this is knowing and trusting and having
certain things and people in your life that allows you and knowing thyself to know, okay,

1420
01:13:46,646 --> 01:13:48,888
well, I just need to take one more step.

1421
01:13:49,389 --> 01:13:50,760
And I say that in all of my rounds.

1422
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,173
just, big dog, one more step, one more step.

1423
01:13:53,173 --> 01:13:58,264
And then you just start to put one foot in front of the other next thing you know, you're
three miles away from the house.

1424
01:13:58,264 --> 01:14:00,386
feel bad when you don't.

1425
01:14:00,386 --> 01:14:00,894
We can.

1426
01:14:00,894 --> 01:14:02,898
you know the distance in which you can.

1427
01:14:02,898 --> 01:14:11,049
And that's the other thing I think like that's the other thing too you need that Once
again when you try shit, and you do shit, and you win a couple times you start to go okay,

1428
01:14:11,049 --> 01:14:11,809
so

1429
01:14:12,302 --> 01:14:15,222
Yeah, I feel bad when I quit early.

1430
01:14:15,222 --> 01:14:23,562
if I'm like, even dumb shit, like if I'm in the sauna and I'm like, I'm gonna do 20
minutes and then I get out at 18, it's like, yeah, you quit.

1431
01:14:23,562 --> 01:14:30,422
So like, for all you know, that's you quitting something two minutes early, two months
early, two years early.

1432
01:14:30,682 --> 01:14:34,102
You like to quit shit right at the end, my friend.

1433
01:14:35,362 --> 01:14:38,242
Where else do I do that?

1434
01:14:39,502 --> 01:14:40,744
It's over to everything.

1435
01:14:40,744 --> 01:14:41,745
everything.

1436
01:14:42,008 --> 01:14:43,826
So what are you over here building?

1437
01:14:45,646 --> 01:14:56,321
um To answer your question with the Rihanna's and the bees and whatnot, actually I
retract, no, I don't think they do.

1438
01:14:58,158 --> 01:15:00,798
I think it goes to the point of where we kind of started the conversation.

1439
01:15:00,798 --> 01:15:04,158
You do selfishly start with an endeavor.

1440
01:15:04,158 --> 01:15:10,518
I don't think they're they're thinking, you know, in terms of like their value and their
gift to the world, it is a dream.

1441
01:15:10,518 --> 01:15:11,318
is a vision.

1442
01:15:11,318 --> 01:15:12,698
It's something they're very great at.

1443
01:15:12,698 --> 01:15:19,858
But I do think as they begin to ascend again, what I said in the beginning is to whom much
is given, much is expected.

1444
01:15:19,858 --> 01:15:21,238
So like.

1445
01:15:21,618 --> 01:15:24,854
You start to be blessed with favor.

1446
01:15:24,854 --> 01:15:28,595
and resources and potential and whatever it may be.

1447
01:15:28,595 --> 01:15:31,786
And then you start looking around to yourself and you say, well, what do I do with this?

1448
01:15:31,786 --> 01:15:32,716
What now?

1449
01:15:32,716 --> 01:15:38,258
After you've bought the frivolous things and everything you want and what your heart
desires, what do I do with them now?

1450
01:15:38,258 --> 01:15:43,999
So to your point, like when you ask, what is this all amounting towards?

1451
01:15:45,340 --> 01:15:53,001
Very recently, did I start actually forming the picture of what I think this could all
amount towards?

1452
01:15:53,242 --> 01:15:55,132
What do I want from me personally?

1453
01:15:55,426 --> 01:16:00,748
And this came about maybe like two or three years ago, just playing the lottery.

1454
01:16:01,289 --> 01:16:03,009
And I'm in my yard.

1455
01:16:03,310 --> 01:16:04,730
I'm in my yard picking weeds.

1456
01:16:04,730 --> 01:16:06,211
And I remember the day.

1457
01:16:06,251 --> 01:16:10,853
And I remember the lottery was maybe up to like 25 million or something like that.

1458
01:16:10,853 --> 01:16:11,653
Right.

1459
01:16:12,054 --> 01:16:15,705
And, know, first of all, for anybody who wins the lottery, you're not getting the full 25
million.

1460
01:16:15,705 --> 01:16:16,156
Right.

1461
01:16:16,156 --> 01:16:21,994
But I was just thinking to myself, OK, if God blesses me tomorrow.

1462
01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:30,618
Knowing what I know now, knowing the projects that I want to do, I started questioning
myself and asking, would I maintain the same work ethic?

1463
01:16:30,718 --> 01:16:34,459
What would I do now with the riches that I've been blessed with?

1464
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,310
Would I still be as charitable?

1465
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:38,181
Would I still be as humble?

1466
01:16:38,181 --> 01:16:47,535
And then I wanted to start holding myself accountable to that because I said, if God is
going to bless me tremendously with the favor that I believe he has in store for me, why

1467
01:16:47,535 --> 01:16:49,558
need to start prepping myself now?

1468
01:16:49,558 --> 01:16:54,783
And so when I started thinking about 25 million, was like, OK, well, what are the first
things that I'm going to do?

1469
01:16:54,783 --> 01:16:57,925
And I started to write this down very intentionally.

1470
01:16:57,925 --> 01:17:02,209
Like for me, 20, 25 million is the start.

1471
01:17:02,209 --> 01:17:05,331
10 % of that immediately goes to my god sister without a blink.

1472
01:17:05,331 --> 01:17:06,292
I'm not questioning it.

1473
01:17:06,292 --> 01:17:06,953
It goes to her.

1474
01:17:06,953 --> 01:17:08,273
She deserves it.

1475
01:17:08,794 --> 01:17:13,218
Next thing, I'm going to pour into my parents because they were there pouring into me.

1476
01:17:13,218 --> 01:17:15,419
A big proportion that is going to them.

1477
01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:18,178
Another thing I want to do, my friends,

1478
01:17:18,178 --> 01:17:23,238
These brothers that you see right here, there's a short list, but it's a powerful list.

1479
01:17:23,238 --> 01:17:29,062
I'm gonna get them together, we're gonna host a dinner, and there's gonna be a check and a
plate that's gonna come out to them.

1480
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,461
They could refuse it if they want, nobody gets the check if they all don't take it.

1481
01:17:34,461 --> 01:17:36,653
And I don't want anything from it.

1482
01:17:36,914 --> 01:17:39,195
I promise you, I don't want anything from it.

1483
01:17:39,195 --> 01:17:42,177
Whatever amount that is to be decided, they keep that.

1484
01:17:42,177 --> 01:17:45,418
And it's just because I love them and it's just because I believe in them.

1485
01:17:45,699 --> 01:17:51,982
And if I'm going to be blessed with something, I want the people around me to be blessed.

1486
01:17:52,363 --> 01:17:56,585
I'll probably take like a month, month off, but I know like I won't.

1487
01:17:56,645 --> 01:17:57,890
Me and my lady.

1488
01:17:57,890 --> 01:18:02,665
We'll go somewhere, we'll enjoy, know, just the fuck you money, right?

1489
01:18:02,665 --> 01:18:03,996
We'll enjoy that.

1490
01:18:04,357 --> 01:18:06,679
But past that, I wanna come back and hit the ground running.

1491
01:18:06,679 --> 01:18:11,884
You you start talking to your, who do I call it?

1492
01:18:12,445 --> 01:18:13,286
What do you call it?

1493
01:18:13,286 --> 01:18:15,267
Wealth manager, know.

1494
01:18:15,528 --> 01:18:18,811
Order directors, yes, get the legal team, everything, thank you so much.

1495
01:18:18,811 --> 01:18:21,534
You know, start putting everything in place, right?

1496
01:18:22,326 --> 01:18:28,410
One of the things for me that's frustrating is as a filmmaker is not having the funds and
resources to green light projects.

1497
01:18:28,410 --> 01:18:30,481
So immediately I want to start like a copro.

1498
01:18:30,481 --> 01:18:38,656
I don't want like the studio or anything like that, but start the copro where people can
start submitting the scripts, where we could get green lit, start finding a multi-picture

1499
01:18:38,656 --> 01:18:39,436
deal.

1500
01:18:39,777 --> 01:18:45,800
I think as an actor, right, as an actor I'm sitting here begging other filmmakers to be in
their films.

1501
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,702
What's the one thing filmmakers need?

1502
01:18:47,702 --> 01:18:48,972
Finances.

1503
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:53,951
So if they're gonna go to other companies and look for product placement, hey, Mr.

1504
01:18:53,951 --> 01:18:58,070
Tarantino, hey, Spielberg, hey, whomever, George Lucas.

1505
01:18:59,746 --> 01:19:03,607
You guys don't need the money, but you're not going to spend your own money.

1506
01:19:03,607 --> 01:19:04,967
Here's what I would like to do.

1507
01:19:04,967 --> 01:19:09,189
Here's a proportion of my wealth that I would like to invest in you.

1508
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:12,790
Use this as the angel fund to do whatever you need development or blah, blah, blah.

1509
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:14,550
All I ask is a small supporting role.

1510
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:16,171
It doesn't even need to be the lead role.

1511
01:19:16,171 --> 01:19:19,622
I just want a small percentage in that already I'm paying into it.

1512
01:19:19,622 --> 01:19:27,084
So it's not like you have to pay me, but give me the percentage on the back end when we
talk about equity, because I believe in the talent that's going to do it.

1513
01:19:27,084 --> 01:19:28,620
And also I believe in my town.

1514
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:32,512
So now all I'm doing is basically investing and buying my way into that film.

1515
01:19:32,512 --> 01:19:34,294
But I would also do that as well.

1516
01:19:34,294 --> 01:19:36,045
Then start the nonprofit.

1517
01:19:36,045 --> 01:19:40,619
So I'll go start ah something for kids.

1518
01:19:40,619 --> 01:19:45,442
I believe in fostering young, youthful imaginations and dreams.

1519
01:19:45,442 --> 01:19:48,685
So I want to go start a foundation that basically builds them up.

1520
01:19:48,685 --> 01:19:50,406
Most likely it's going to be in film.

1521
01:19:50,406 --> 01:19:52,227
But of course, that's my nonprofit.

1522
01:19:52,227 --> 01:19:56,608
So then when we make profit from the main production company, that's funneling into the
nonprofit.

1523
01:19:56,608 --> 01:19:59,840
Also, too, I'm fostering young talent so I can keep an eye on them.

1524
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,483
If I see great talent, well, then we funnel them back to the production company.

1525
01:20:03,483 --> 01:20:06,385
Full ecosystem, you know what I mean?

1526
01:20:06,385 --> 01:20:11,348
Past that, like you said, just start investing in a couple of assets, start investing in
some real estate.

1527
01:20:11,348 --> 01:20:13,510
I know for sure I'm going to live in Tokyo.

1528
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:15,391
So half my time is going to be here in the States.

1529
01:20:15,391 --> 01:20:17,012
Half the time is going to be in Tokyo.

1530
01:20:17,012 --> 01:20:21,586
So I'm looking at some properties over there, satellite properties in different places
that I want to be at.

1531
01:20:21,586 --> 01:20:22,126
You know what I mean?

1532
01:20:22,126 --> 01:20:25,656
So like these are the things that I started putting into my mind.

1533
01:20:25,656 --> 01:20:29,769
So that's why I say when I get 20 to 25 million, that's just the start.

1534
01:20:29,769 --> 01:20:31,730
50 million, cool, I'm going to start chilling.

1535
01:20:31,730 --> 01:20:33,211
I might not be as active.

1536
01:20:33,211 --> 01:20:40,437
But again, by the time I've got that type of wealth, I hope to have all the systems in
place to where that'll be just continuous income.

1537
01:20:40,437 --> 01:20:42,408
And that way I can do the things I want to do.

1538
01:20:42,408 --> 01:20:49,403
like 50 to me is when maybe I'll start letting off the gas, maybe just enjoying life.

1539
01:20:49,403 --> 01:20:54,066
But that's financial, financial freedom for me, quote unquote.

1540
01:20:54,346 --> 01:20:56,307
know most people haven't designed that?

1541
01:20:57,446 --> 01:20:59,550
They haven't designed that.

1542
01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:03,933
they have because what you can do is if you can see your destination, you can reverse
engineer it.

1543
01:21:04,114 --> 01:21:07,656
You can 100 % reverse engineer exactly what you're talking about.

1544
01:21:07,876 --> 01:21:08,617
that's a step.

1545
01:21:08,617 --> 01:21:09,638
You gotta see what you want.

1546
01:21:09,638 --> 01:21:10,578
Put a number to it.

1547
01:21:10,578 --> 01:21:12,180
Nobody wants to put a financial number to it.

1548
01:21:12,180 --> 01:21:13,481
Put your number to it.

1549
01:21:13,481 --> 01:21:16,063
You put the number to it and then you reverse engineer it.

1550
01:21:16,063 --> 01:21:20,716
But then what you have to do when you reverse engineer it, you do have to categorize the
steps.

1551
01:21:20,716 --> 01:21:20,886
Yeah.

1552
01:21:20,886 --> 01:21:21,156
Yeah.

1553
01:21:21,156 --> 01:21:27,738
And then you have this here is that vision board like Oprah used to do and everybody you
have the vision board but then when everybody wouldn't do it, you gotta say, what's step

1554
01:21:27,738 --> 01:21:28,128
one?

1555
01:21:28,128 --> 01:21:28,988
Yeah.

1556
01:21:29,048 --> 01:21:30,879
And you just get to work on step one.

1557
01:21:30,879 --> 01:21:31,269
Yeah.

1558
01:21:31,269 --> 01:21:35,430
And you don't even look at two, three, four, five, until you crush one.

1559
01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:36,850
You crush it.

1560
01:21:36,911 --> 01:21:38,391
And then you go and do two.

1561
01:21:38,391 --> 01:21:43,252
And because if you have this final destination in mind, you don't need to revisit it
because that's in your brain.

1562
01:21:43,252 --> 01:21:43,933
Yeah.

1563
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:44,903
You've got that built.

1564
01:21:44,903 --> 01:21:45,829
You know where you're going.

1565
01:21:45,829 --> 01:21:45,946
Yeah.

1566
01:21:45,946 --> 01:21:48,174
So, you should have the motivation, determination every day, right?

1567
01:21:48,174 --> 01:21:48,484
Yeah.

1568
01:21:48,484 --> 01:21:49,644
There'll be some

1569
01:21:49,644 --> 01:21:54,896
tragic things along the way but if you have this destination, you don't let it deviate.

1570
01:21:55,136 --> 01:21:57,527
you don't set the course, screwed, right?

1571
01:21:57,527 --> 01:22:03,358
That everybody makes these metaphors, these analogies about a boat leaving one port and
going to another or getting on a plane from one airport to another.

1572
01:22:03,358 --> 01:22:08,510
you would deviate one degree off in the beginning of your destination.

1573
01:22:08,510 --> 01:22:08,820
Yeah.

1574
01:22:08,820 --> 01:22:09,620
You end up.

1575
01:22:09,620 --> 01:22:09,941
Yeah.

1576
01:22:09,941 --> 01:22:10,561
Way over here.

1577
01:22:10,561 --> 01:22:10,961
Yeah.

1578
01:22:10,961 --> 01:22:11,401
Right.

1579
01:22:11,401 --> 01:22:11,891
So, think.

1580
01:22:11,891 --> 01:22:14,332
Well, I got a terrible glass.

1581
01:22:14,332 --> 01:22:16,839
degree off the shit all the way.

1582
01:22:17,582 --> 01:22:22,022
But it's funny that you say this because you gotta feed.

1583
01:22:22,285 --> 01:22:23,228
Thank you for doing that, man.

1584
01:22:23,228 --> 01:22:25,955
mean, that articulation is spot on.

1585
01:22:25,955 --> 01:22:29,279
it's something that has been like keeping me up at night, but in a great way.

1586
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:32,344
Like these are the things that I want to when you talk about what is that?

1587
01:22:32,344 --> 01:22:36,014
I had to start figuring that out and it was only till recently, you know,

1588
01:22:36,014 --> 01:22:40,794
It's funny, we were in his garage and we were putting up panels for the house.

1589
01:22:40,894 --> 01:22:43,434
And I go, what's your number?

1590
01:22:45,054 --> 01:22:46,734
I go, what's your number?

1591
01:22:46,734 --> 01:22:47,154
Right?

1592
01:22:47,154 --> 01:22:49,754
Because I always have my number.

1593
01:22:49,954 --> 01:22:52,874
My number a year.

1594
01:22:53,218 --> 01:22:58,508
What's the number you need to get to until you can still completely be fulfilling the life
that you've seen and intended for yourself?

1595
01:22:58,508 --> 01:23:02,345
My beginning number is 2.5 a year, million.

1596
01:23:04,531 --> 01:23:06,333
That's my beginning number.

1597
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:09,070
you're to me.

1598
01:23:09,070 --> 01:23:09,890
Yeah.

1599
01:23:12,324 --> 01:23:16,587
So that's the number that's, you know, that's what I've always had.

1600
01:23:16,747 --> 01:23:17,425
Three million.

1601
01:23:17,425 --> 01:23:18,068
Three million a year.

1602
01:23:18,068 --> 01:23:18,849
I like threes.

1603
01:23:18,849 --> 01:23:20,490
As you can see, one, two, three.

1604
01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:21,631
I do everything in three.

1605
01:23:21,631 --> 01:23:23,872
So three million a year is really my number.

1606
01:23:23,872 --> 01:23:31,817
And I have this conversation with my brothers because I go, we hold each other accountable
in every other space.

1607
01:23:31,918 --> 01:23:33,819
What's our next frontier?

1608
01:23:33,939 --> 01:23:34,320
Right.

1609
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,252
No matter how it is that you want to do it, we have to be able to set the course.

1610
01:23:38,326 --> 01:23:40,318
And I'm still getting my plan.

1611
01:23:40,318 --> 01:23:45,133
Because like I said, Doug, this guy's a schematic chart right here.

1612
01:23:45,214 --> 01:23:50,490
So I'm a gut guy, as you can see.

1613
01:23:50,490 --> 01:23:52,262
You got a little weight on me.

1614
01:23:55,679 --> 01:24:02,690
That's why I have to even start to co-create and deep dive into something to the extent of
themselves.

1615
01:24:02,690 --> 01:24:03,361
You know what I mean?

1616
01:24:03,361 --> 01:24:05,534
Because I'm one those guys where I know my number.

1617
01:24:05,534 --> 01:24:07,257
Okay, well, what can I do to...

1618
01:24:07,257 --> 01:24:07,938
uh

1619
01:24:07,938 --> 01:24:08,818
we get there?

1620
01:24:08,818 --> 01:24:10,960
You just gotta take action, y'all.

1621
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,741
You just gotta get really busy and take action right now.

1622
01:24:13,741 --> 01:24:16,482
And knowing how to get, because it's like, how am I gonna get there?

1623
01:24:16,482 --> 01:24:17,063
I'm a fly.

1624
01:24:17,063 --> 01:24:22,395
It's like, you know, it's like, what do I have in, what do I have right now that can get
me there?

1625
01:24:22,395 --> 01:24:22,575
Right?

1626
01:24:22,575 --> 01:24:24,395
And I think that's when the

1627
01:24:26,722 --> 01:24:27,064
Yeah.

1628
01:24:27,064 --> 01:24:29,826
to start thinking and checking.

1629
01:24:29,826 --> 01:24:38,362
That's when the head scratching starts because you really need to ponder on that and go,
what is it that I can, what is it that already exists here?

1630
01:24:38,362 --> 01:24:39,893
Don't think too long though.

1631
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:41,646
No, and I don't.

1632
01:24:41,646 --> 01:24:47,946
because sometimes the person who you set out as on the journey is not the person who
actually is.

1633
01:24:47,946 --> 01:24:54,606
Maybe you'd be like, what do I have right now that I can, and then you fuck around and
when you get there you go, oh, I didn't have that shit when I started.

1634
01:24:54,606 --> 01:24:55,326
You know what I mean?

1635
01:24:55,326 --> 01:24:56,568
But I figured it out.

1636
01:24:56,568 --> 01:25:06,166
to that point, like, and that's the reason why I kind of want to circle back a little bit
on kind of like the numbers that I was talking about, right?

1637
01:25:06,166 --> 01:25:16,895
And why 20 to 25 million can kind of be a starting point is because a lot of people will
get that type of money and then they'll be like, fuck it, I made it.

1638
01:25:17,136 --> 01:25:20,559
But if I like, even with everything I just told you, right?

1639
01:25:20,559 --> 01:25:23,641
If you were to crunch those numbers, that's just gonna go so

1640
01:25:24,014 --> 01:25:25,534
with what you're talking about?

1641
01:25:25,534 --> 01:25:26,415
fast.

1642
01:25:26,415 --> 01:25:28,996
But those are things that I would like to achieve.

1643
01:25:28,996 --> 01:25:32,998
That's why I say even when you get to 50, start letting off the pedal.

1644
01:25:32,998 --> 01:25:41,563
But hopefully, like you want the things to keep running because you're going to need a
bare minimum to kind of get a lot of that going started.

1645
01:25:41,563 --> 01:25:42,373
You know what I mean?

1646
01:25:42,373 --> 01:25:46,525
So then when you think big picture, like what are the things at the end of the day like?

1647
01:25:47,006 --> 01:25:54,270
Not only that are going to make you feel like you achieved what you want to achieve and
are going to make you happy, but also to what are you putting back into the world?

1648
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:55,382
So, you know, like

1649
01:25:55,382 --> 01:26:03,465
The reason why, again, I was I was speaking on the nonprofit or speaking about the
production company or whatnot is, yes, it is a selfish endeavor, but also that is pouring

1650
01:26:03,465 --> 01:26:10,218
back in in a way where I feel like I can give back to the things that I have learned and
taken, you know, taken in.

1651
01:26:10,218 --> 01:26:14,550
And that's why I say, like, at that point, that's when the cash is going to come in.

1652
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:22,733
like, you know, to Jesse's point, you start reaching a certain level of wealth and then
you're like, fuck, you need more, you need more, you need more.

1653
01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:25,036
And then I'm sure.

1654
01:26:25,036 --> 01:26:26,687
Sir, you've done well for yourself.

1655
01:26:26,687 --> 01:26:31,408
You know, we've all we've all seen exactly.

1656
01:26:31,709 --> 01:26:36,831
We've all seen at least a substantial amount of increase within our finances.

1657
01:26:36,831 --> 01:26:37,771
Right.

1658
01:26:37,871 --> 01:26:43,794
You do buy the quick things that make you very satisfied, the things that you always
wanted when you were young and as soon as you get it.

1659
01:26:43,794 --> 01:26:44,084
Right.

1660
01:26:44,084 --> 01:26:46,415
What happens like a year or two years later?

1661
01:26:46,775 --> 01:26:48,056
Cool.

1662
01:26:48,056 --> 01:26:49,236
It becomes your norm.

1663
01:26:49,236 --> 01:26:53,720
It becomes your baseline and it becomes such a baseline where once you buy like

1664
01:26:53,720 --> 01:27:00,071
We love fashion, but once you add enough fashion, I'm waking up in sweatpants and I'm
putting on a nice shirt.

1665
01:27:00,071 --> 01:27:03,292
It might be Issei Miyake sweatpants.

1666
01:27:03,553 --> 01:27:06,470
It might be Yohei Yamamoto, but it's some sweatpants.

1667
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:07,582
And I'm gonna show up.

1668
01:27:07,582 --> 01:27:11,515
I might wear the same sambas just because I found that these things are comfortable.

1669
01:27:11,515 --> 01:27:16,776
And now that's a thing that no longer brings me joy or value.

1670
01:27:16,776 --> 01:27:20,037
I might get one really nice watch or maybe two or three.

1671
01:27:20,037 --> 01:27:21,948
But to be honest, I'm not a watch guy.

1672
01:27:21,948 --> 01:27:23,660
So I'll get like one or two.

1673
01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:24,161
He's lying.

1674
01:27:24,161 --> 01:27:24,992
that's nice.

1675
01:27:24,992 --> 01:27:26,575
Stop it.

1676
01:27:26,575 --> 01:27:27,657
For me, it's cars.

1677
01:27:27,657 --> 01:27:28,398
For me, it's cars.

1678
01:27:28,398 --> 01:27:34,707
I love automobiles, but even to a certain point now, I just bought last year my dream car.

1679
01:27:35,470 --> 01:27:38,162
Just bought one of my dream cars, Porsche 911.

1680
01:27:38,162 --> 01:27:38,563
portion.

1681
01:27:38,563 --> 01:27:42,480
It's about he's got the big wing is in all the stuff

1682
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:44,181
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, much.

1683
01:27:44,181 --> 01:27:45,152
That's too much.

1684
01:27:45,152 --> 01:27:48,445
See, look, if we're buying the track model, if we're buying the track model, sure.

1685
01:27:48,445 --> 01:27:50,257
But we're buying the track model with intent.

1686
01:27:50,257 --> 01:27:51,968
It's not because I want to because it's flash.

1687
01:27:51,968 --> 01:27:54,019
It's because I know how well this thing is designed.

1688
01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,081
I also can't drive the track model every single day.

1689
01:27:57,518 --> 01:27:58,758
I

1690
01:28:01,002 --> 01:28:01,476
I am!

1691
01:28:01,476 --> 01:28:02,486
Benzes!

1692
01:28:02,486 --> 01:28:10,270
So for me, like again, when we talk about classics, there are certain years and there are
certain cars and there are certain legacies.

1693
01:28:10,270 --> 01:28:14,753
Like you said, people of wealth start buying into it because of the history.

1694
01:28:14,753 --> 01:28:17,674
You know, we're not buying the nice art piece just because we like it.

1695
01:28:17,674 --> 01:28:19,995
Sometimes we are, but we're also buying into the artist.

1696
01:28:19,995 --> 01:28:21,426
We're buying into the value of this.

1697
01:28:21,426 --> 01:28:22,997
We're buying into the story.

1698
01:28:22,997 --> 01:28:25,356
And that is what creates the value of

1699
01:28:25,356 --> 01:28:30,874
Because I could go out tomorrow and buy the trading card or the jersey of whomever I think
is my favorite sports player.

1700
01:28:30,874 --> 01:28:34,299
Doesn't mean that's gonna be a valuable jersey in a couple years.

1701
01:28:34,299 --> 01:28:42,006
I am buying into the legacy and the story behind this so that when I turn around and need
to sell that asset, I know the value is gonna be placed in it.

1702
01:28:42,006 --> 01:28:43,442
alone against it.

1703
01:28:43,852 --> 01:28:44,610
That's right.

1704
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:52,342
So then when we start thinking about certain type of cars and stuff like that, as much as
I love like Lamborghinis and I think they're cool, I don't want to fucking own just any

1705
01:28:52,342 --> 01:28:53,554
Lamborghini.

1706
01:28:53,554 --> 01:28:55,714
It's got to be a Lamborghini Miura.

1707
01:28:55,835 --> 01:28:56,975
And why?

1708
01:28:57,255 --> 01:29:00,717
my God, those things are so beautiful and so precious and so timeless.

1709
01:29:00,717 --> 01:29:04,178
But if you see how they're shooting up in value right now, it's incredible.

1710
01:29:04,178 --> 01:29:05,159
You see what I mean?

1711
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,800
So now you start making different different moves.

1712
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,301
I'll go drive an Aventador just for the fuck of it.

1713
01:29:10,301 --> 01:29:12,892
We could go rent Huracans and go drive them out to Vegas.

1714
01:29:12,892 --> 01:29:13,644
That's great.

1715
01:29:13,644 --> 01:29:14,826
I'll rent them at that point.

1716
01:29:14,826 --> 01:29:16,108
I don't want to fucking own.

1717
01:29:16,108 --> 01:29:17,751
Yeah, I don't want to own that.

1718
01:29:17,751 --> 01:29:18,782
want to own this.

1719
01:29:18,782 --> 01:29:19,303
Yeah.

1720
01:29:19,303 --> 01:29:24,712
You know, and that's the difference of once you start, you know, acquiring wealth and then
like, what are we buying here?

1721
01:29:24,712 --> 01:29:25,920
We're not just buying any.

1722
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,394
Right, what are we doing?

1723
01:29:27,394 --> 01:29:30,469
Can we also make money off the shit that we're buying?

1724
01:29:30,469 --> 01:29:31,084
Why not?

1725
01:29:31,084 --> 01:29:34,854
Well, because still I said if I love cars, you know what I want to do?

1726
01:29:34,854 --> 01:29:37,176
I want to create a picture vehicle company.

1727
01:29:37,537 --> 01:29:46,121
Have a whole garage that's being tended on so that way they can take care of my private
collection, but also to they could be featured in other films, put them in the Peterson

1728
01:29:46,121 --> 01:29:47,611
Museum and have them on display.

1729
01:29:47,611 --> 01:29:50,543
And now every time they go read the little placard, they read the name.

1730
01:29:50,543 --> 01:29:51,053
Guess what?

1731
01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:53,844
That's pointing to what other film that I put the car in.

1732
01:29:53,844 --> 01:29:56,005
So now they could go watch the film.

1733
01:29:57,166 --> 01:29:57,807
You see it?

1734
01:29:57,807 --> 01:29:59,890
I'm a dirty business type of guy.

1735
01:30:00,092 --> 01:30:01,575
I'm a blue collar guy.

1736
01:30:01,575 --> 01:30:08,142
Like, I like that, but I also like I'm a steel toe boot, everyday type of guy.

1737
01:30:08,142 --> 01:30:10,371
You got to watch out for the steel toe boot guys.

1738
01:30:11,054 --> 01:30:13,420
ah I'm the steel-toed bull guy.

1739
01:30:13,420 --> 01:30:19,226
one of uh

1740
01:30:19,226 --> 01:30:20,477
for war.

1741
01:30:20,477 --> 01:30:21,908
It's funny, we just had a conversation.

1742
01:30:21,908 --> 01:30:26,761
I was like, no, if we're in a war, I'm the guy that if we're in the trenches, we're going
home.

1743
01:30:27,262 --> 01:30:30,723
And I'd probably give my life to make sure that they go home.

1744
01:30:30,784 --> 01:30:33,456
You see what I'm saying?

1745
01:30:33,456 --> 01:30:39,850
Now that part, once again, once again, the, I know that.

1746
01:30:39,850 --> 01:30:41,591
No, but we definitely going home.

1747
01:30:41,591 --> 01:30:43,433
That's for sure.

1748
01:30:43,433 --> 01:30:45,772
But you know, I like, I like dirty business.

1749
01:30:45,772 --> 01:30:49,263
I'm a guy to where, go get a trade.

1750
01:30:49,704 --> 01:30:52,345
If you want to do this, bitch, you're probably not going to make it.

1751
01:30:52,345 --> 01:30:53,645
Go do the other thing.

1752
01:30:53,645 --> 01:30:55,626
And that's wanted and that's needed.

1753
01:30:55,626 --> 01:30:56,897
I have a delivery company.

1754
01:30:56,897 --> 01:30:57,747
It's great.

1755
01:30:57,747 --> 01:31:04,550
It's like, that's what gets me the things that I really need to be able to hang when this
isn't working.

1756
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:05,150
You know what I mean?

1757
01:31:05,150 --> 01:31:06,751
Cause I'm, see they're film.

1758
01:31:06,751 --> 01:31:08,411
I'm doing the music.

1759
01:31:08,792 --> 01:31:10,593
Nah, this ain't what you want.

1760
01:31:10,593 --> 01:31:11,263
You know what I mean?

1761
01:31:11,263 --> 01:31:14,344
And you have to have things set up and systems set up.

1762
01:31:14,350 --> 01:31:16,695
to where it's fail proof here.

1763
01:31:16,695 --> 01:31:17,577
You know what I mean?

1764
01:31:17,577 --> 01:31:18,062
So.

1765
01:31:18,062 --> 01:31:19,084
You going to the studio after this?

1766
01:31:19,084 --> 01:31:20,986
was about to say, tell me, speak to that more.

1767
01:31:20,986 --> 01:31:21,272
up?

1768
01:31:21,272 --> 01:31:24,499
Keep you motivated when the thing isn't working.

1769
01:31:24,686 --> 01:31:25,726
Mm.

1770
01:31:26,452 --> 01:31:28,156
What keeps me motivated?

1771
01:31:28,156 --> 01:31:29,346
Specify.

1772
01:31:29,346 --> 01:31:30,306
like,

1773
01:31:34,574 --> 01:31:35,514
do this.

1774
01:31:35,654 --> 01:31:36,874
Let's do some numbers.

1775
01:31:36,874 --> 01:31:39,074
My mother just turned 70 in July.

1776
01:31:39,374 --> 01:31:43,174
My father has been deceased for the last 21 years.

1777
01:31:43,734 --> 01:31:49,934
I'm not only the man in my household, but the last patriarch of my family also passed away
in February.

1778
01:31:50,434 --> 01:31:51,874
I'm all we got.

1779
01:31:52,814 --> 01:31:56,254
So I work seven days, every day.

1780
01:31:56,254 --> 01:31:57,854
No, no, no, no, every day.

1781
01:31:57,854 --> 01:32:01,574
Like I'm that guy, still toe boot wearing, about to go get it.

1782
01:32:01,574 --> 01:32:02,554
We in Japan.

1783
01:32:02,554 --> 01:32:04,654
I got another guy running the rig.

1784
01:32:05,230 --> 01:32:09,730
Hey, something goes something happens that when we at the table, I got to get up.

1785
01:32:09,730 --> 01:32:10,730
I got to take this.

1786
01:32:10,730 --> 01:32:16,050
It's 12 o'clock in Japan, but it's what we hours in the morning in L.A.

1787
01:32:16,050 --> 01:32:19,810
And so for me, it's a matter of I can't afford to fail.

1788
01:32:20,130 --> 01:32:21,930
You know, even though I'm in L.A.

1789
01:32:21,930 --> 01:32:22,510
from L.A.

1790
01:32:22,510 --> 01:32:25,690
moving in L.A., I cannot afford to fail and I will not.

1791
01:32:25,690 --> 01:32:30,650
Now we may take some bumps and bruises along the road and that's going to happen and we're
going to have to pivot.

1792
01:32:30,650 --> 01:32:31,550
But.

1793
01:32:32,128 --> 01:32:37,699
My mother is 70 and she's at that age to where, know, shit start breaking down slowly.

1794
01:32:37,700 --> 01:32:40,770
She got on the plane, sciatica started acting up on the way to New Orleans.

1795
01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:52,023
I said, uh-oh, I need to kick some shit in the high gear because I don't want to be the
reason why the people around me who depend on me can't live the life that I'm supposed to

1796
01:32:52,023 --> 01:32:53,024
provide.

1797
01:32:53,024 --> 01:32:54,014
I don't want to be that guy.

1798
01:32:54,014 --> 01:32:55,724
like, no, no, no, we could have had all of this.

1799
01:32:55,724 --> 01:33:01,836
dad, why didn't you just imagine looking at your kids and having, and that, and.

1800
01:33:02,062 --> 01:33:06,322
You see the angst in their eyes going, damn, I could have just did the thing.

1801
01:33:06,322 --> 01:33:07,642
Could have just went the extra mile.

1802
01:33:07,642 --> 01:33:10,162
And so for me, that's what keeps me going.

1803
01:33:10,162 --> 01:33:17,462
And I see their parents, their parents are like rock stars to me because I see the
sacrifices that they make so that they can live the way they live.

1804
01:33:17,462 --> 01:33:22,962
And I mean, I'm in the same boat, but it's also like I had to pivot up, you know what I
mean?

1805
01:33:22,962 --> 01:33:28,982
And so I go, I look at their parents, I look at my parents, I look at my family, my mom,
and even my dad when he was alive.

1806
01:33:28,982 --> 01:33:30,562
And I go, yo, like.

1807
01:33:31,746 --> 01:33:33,049
We can do this.

1808
01:33:33,049 --> 01:33:34,713
It's more than attainable.

1809
01:33:34,713 --> 01:33:35,384
You know what I mean?

1810
01:33:35,384 --> 01:33:38,440
So that's really what keeps me driving the force.

1811
01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:39,334
You know what mean?

1812
01:33:39,334 --> 01:33:39,914
got something else.

1813
01:33:39,914 --> 01:33:41,014
I'm gonna ask a deep question.

1814
01:33:41,014 --> 01:33:42,345
I got one more deep one for y'all.

1815
01:33:42,345 --> 01:33:43,035
Nope.

1816
01:33:43,035 --> 01:33:43,465
Right.

1817
01:33:43,465 --> 01:33:44,695
So be ready.

1818
01:33:44,716 --> 01:33:45,446
You got this.

1819
01:33:45,446 --> 01:33:46,456
We can talk.

1820
01:33:47,016 --> 01:33:48,417
It's like you scared about this.

1821
01:33:48,417 --> 01:33:51,917
Bring some Marcus Aurelius at us.

1822
01:33:52,238 --> 01:33:58,659
What what you guys who wants it first because the other two get to think about it.

1823
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,580
first person who gets who wants it first.

1824
01:34:01,580 --> 01:34:02,640
Go go.

1825
01:34:03,021 --> 01:34:04,151
Because he normally go last.

1826
01:34:04,151 --> 01:34:05,021
He get to think first.

1827
01:34:05,021 --> 01:34:05,842
Go with him first.

1828
01:34:05,842 --> 01:34:06,122
boy.

1829
01:34:06,122 --> 01:34:07,160
Yeah.

1830
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:07,859
Peace out.

1831
01:34:07,859 --> 01:34:08,869
Thank you.

1832
01:34:08,869 --> 01:34:11,627
you used to believe about the world that you don't anymore.

1833
01:34:13,134 --> 01:34:15,457
Oh.

1834
01:34:15,457 --> 01:34:16,898
to go, folks.

1835
01:34:17,420 --> 01:34:18,741
This is nice.

1836
01:34:22,466 --> 01:34:23,407
God.

1837
01:34:24,573 --> 01:34:25,473
Okay.

1838
01:34:26,291 --> 01:34:27,952
everybody wanted to change their life.

1839
01:34:27,952 --> 01:34:29,656
Mmm, damn.

1840
01:34:29,831 --> 01:34:31,154
I would agree with that.

1841
01:34:31,154 --> 01:34:32,274
I don't see it.

1842
01:34:32,476 --> 01:34:34,017
No, I would agree with that.

1843
01:34:34,579 --> 01:34:35,180
That's mine.

1844
01:34:35,180 --> 01:34:36,742
um

1845
01:34:40,046 --> 01:34:42,506
I was going to say something along the same line.

1846
01:34:44,606 --> 01:34:45,946
Seriously, like

1847
01:34:49,890 --> 01:34:52,054
that this is gonna work out for everybody.

1848
01:34:53,318 --> 01:34:56,704
That's the way I would have reframed that is...

1849
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:00,801
man, you're so talented.

1850
01:35:00,801 --> 01:35:01,411
You're so gifted.

1851
01:35:01,411 --> 01:35:04,392
You're to do everything and this, that and the third and more.

1852
01:35:06,414 --> 01:35:16,609
I will say at least for what we do, there are so many micro miracles that have to happen
and so much favor along with the preparation, along with the hard work, along with the

1853
01:35:16,609 --> 01:35:20,181
hours to where it all culminates and needs to meet up.

1854
01:35:20,181 --> 01:35:28,286
Now, the reason why I say this is dangerous, I'm not going to call any names, but there
was an actor who was on a podcast recently and he was just basically talking about how

1855
01:35:28,286 --> 01:35:28,940
like,

1856
01:35:28,940 --> 01:35:33,133
the industry chooses you, you your talent doesn't necessarily get you there.

1857
01:35:33,133 --> 01:35:44,741
And I think that's dangerous to do on these microphones is to say that your talent can't
get you there because I think you're already cutting people off at the legs and you have

1858
01:35:44,741 --> 01:35:51,340
to give them a chance to get there, but they have to work their ass off, but also too, it
has to be a timing thing.

1859
01:35:51,340 --> 01:35:54,813
and your time might come to date, it might come down the road.

1860
01:35:54,813 --> 01:35:56,874
I know for me, I'm a man of faith.

1861
01:35:56,874 --> 01:36:01,097
So a lot of times where, I'm putting in the work overnight.

1862
01:36:01,097 --> 01:36:09,903
Also, it is my large trust in God and the things that I have been given and the things
that I see and what I dream and what I feel is being spoken to me.

1863
01:36:09,963 --> 01:36:12,064
And so I'm following that voice.

1864
01:36:12,065 --> 01:36:14,706
Some people might not have that higher power.

1865
01:36:15,327 --> 01:36:18,369
I can't speak on how their life is turning out for them.

1866
01:36:18,369 --> 01:36:20,364
God bless them, however that's going.

1867
01:36:20,364 --> 01:36:29,098
However, I know faith has changed unequivocally, 100 % the way I move in life and the
blessings that have come into my life.

1868
01:36:29,539 --> 01:36:37,203
And so once I started tapping into that, once I started tapping into the unseen, that's
when things also started to change for me.

1869
01:36:37,203 --> 01:36:46,468
On top of me uh being poured into by my community and me actively wanting to change and
have a greater life for myself.

1870
01:36:46,468 --> 01:36:50,030
But again, shit could have went real sideways for me just as quickly.

1871
01:36:50,030 --> 01:36:54,049
It could go sideways for you at any given moment and any given day.

1872
01:36:54,049 --> 01:37:02,190
So to that point, you then start to look up and look around you and say, how many people
actually want this?

1873
01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:05,510
How many people how many people are going to get up in the morning and actually do this?

1874
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:08,950
How many people is that favor going to fall upon?

1875
01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:10,030
Did you miss your window?

1876
01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:14,770
And no, you don't always miss your window if you're somebody who reads the scripture or
whatnot.

1877
01:37:14,770 --> 01:37:19,014
You your blessing might come when you're 95 and you can change the world.

1878
01:37:19,192 --> 01:37:26,246
There are a lot of people who have tapped in a great fortune in their 40s and 50s and 60s
later in life.

1879
01:37:26,627 --> 01:37:28,158
But man, it is a struggle.

1880
01:37:28,158 --> 01:37:29,909
How much are you willing to hold on?

1881
01:37:29,909 --> 01:37:31,330
And not a lot of people are.

1882
01:37:31,330 --> 01:37:32,371
And that's fine.

1883
01:37:32,371 --> 01:37:33,731
You know why that's fine?

1884
01:37:33,731 --> 01:37:41,937
Is because for the exceptional human beings who are out here doing things and providing
something for the world, there also needs to be people who are helping maintain that.

1885
01:37:41,937 --> 01:37:44,024
And Amazon does not get to where it's at.

1886
01:37:44,024 --> 01:37:49,057
without the people who are doing the nine to five, putting in the work, whatever that is
for their baseline.

1887
01:37:49,057 --> 01:37:52,619
However, they're living their life and Amazon does not succeed.

1888
01:37:52,619 --> 01:37:57,712
So that's why I say like as unfortunate as it is, and I don't want to be cynical.

1889
01:37:57,712 --> 01:38:06,166
also think about the balance of life to the people who are sitting up top controlling the
chessboard, so to speak, or on that back row of the chessboard.

1890
01:38:06,166 --> 01:38:07,667
There are a hell of a lot of pawns.

1891
01:38:07,667 --> 01:38:11,790
Ponds can turn into queens, but sometimes pawns are just out there doing the work.

1892
01:38:11,790 --> 01:38:12,960
And you know what?

1893
01:38:13,952 --> 01:38:21,768
If I'm going to say I'm going to be somebody on the back piece of the chessboard, I have
much appreciation for the pawns as well because they are doing some.

1894
01:38:21,902 --> 01:38:23,162
and kick this back to you.

1895
01:38:23,162 --> 01:38:25,242
There was a point in my life I was a pond.

1896
01:38:25,722 --> 01:38:28,842
We gotta be willing to play these roles as we rise up and do greater things.

1897
01:38:28,842 --> 01:38:34,482
There's a lot of people who aren't willing to take where they're at right now and work
really hard, even if it doesn't look as good as somebody else's, because that's how you

1898
01:38:34,482 --> 01:38:35,442
get there.

1899
01:38:36,382 --> 01:38:38,322
You just gotta survive.

1900
01:38:38,862 --> 01:38:40,524
Survive, so maybe you can play a different part.

1901
01:38:40,524 --> 01:38:42,036
And that's how you stay there.

1902
01:38:42,780 --> 01:38:46,768
That's you can't lose that.

1903
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:47,391
can't lose it.

1904
01:38:47,391 --> 01:38:48,439
There's no way.

1905
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:48,840
why I will.

1906
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:49,310
Yeah.

1907
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:50,711
So it's not gonna work out for everyone.

1908
01:38:50,711 --> 01:38:52,052
That maybe you thought it did.

1909
01:38:52,052 --> 01:38:54,663
Maybe your faith, did you always think it was gonna work out for everyone?

1910
01:38:54,663 --> 01:38:55,454
Just...

1911
01:38:55,714 --> 01:38:57,254
Did you hope man?

1912
01:38:57,515 --> 01:39:00,495
We get on these microphones or you sit in front of panels and whatnot.

1913
01:39:00,495 --> 01:39:07,157
like my intention is to hopefully the same way I've been empowered empower other people.

1914
01:39:07,317 --> 01:39:12,839
Now, what you do with that knowledge outside of, you know, sitting down, having a
conversation is on you.

1915
01:39:12,959 --> 01:39:16,670
But when I genuinely sit in front of people, it could be an audience of five.

1916
01:39:16,670 --> 01:39:18,794
could be an audience of 500.

1917
01:39:19,241 --> 01:39:23,126
At least the most I could do is be like, guys, it is achievable.

1918
01:39:23,126 --> 01:39:28,553
That's why I say that's the responsibility of uh preaching that message is it is
achievable.

1919
01:39:28,553 --> 01:39:32,526
The sad reality is though, is that that percentage is going to be low.

1920
01:39:32,526 --> 01:39:34,333
But then here's the message you should say.

1921
01:39:34,357 --> 01:39:36,546
That's reflective of how hard it's going to be.

1922
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,152
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1923
01:39:39,152 --> 01:39:39,312
it.

1924
01:39:39,312 --> 01:39:39,962
That's what's right.

1925
01:39:39,962 --> 01:39:43,483
It's not a reflection of if any of us are worthy.

1926
01:39:43,483 --> 01:39:51,055
If any of us are capable, it's like, listen, whoever keeps going and works the hardest and
catches a little bit of luck, surround themselves with right people, you put this entire

1927
01:39:51,055 --> 01:39:55,327
nucleus together and you keep going and deal with another level of pain that others aren't
willing to deal with.

1928
01:39:55,327 --> 01:39:56,837
That's who's going to win, right?

1929
01:39:56,837 --> 01:39:58,425
It's that I'm not sure.

1930
01:39:58,425 --> 01:39:59,038
Sacrifice.

1931
01:39:59,038 --> 01:39:59,638
Yeah, it's not.

1932
01:39:59,638 --> 01:40:01,538
I don't think this is a predestination.

1933
01:40:01,538 --> 01:40:07,260
People would argue with me from a religious standpoint and stuff, but if we say we're in
control, then it's not totally predestined.

1934
01:40:08,494 --> 01:40:09,014
It's a battle.

1935
01:40:09,014 --> 01:40:10,314
That's a whole nother conversation.

1936
01:40:10,314 --> 01:40:13,198
So what did you used to believe that you don't believe anymore?

1937
01:40:13,198 --> 01:40:14,951
um I was thinking about this.

1938
01:40:14,951 --> 01:40:19,365
Yeah, yeah.

1939
01:40:19,365 --> 01:40:21,674
Cause it used to, could be like, man, I really thought it was terrible.

1940
01:40:21,674 --> 01:40:23,208
And it's like, man, that was not.

1941
01:40:23,383 --> 01:40:25,628
No, think it's true.

1942
01:40:25,628 --> 01:40:32,801
I think the one thing when I was mulling it over, was like, I think I used to have this
idea that like...

1943
01:40:34,136 --> 01:40:35,868
that we all could have hair like you.

1944
01:40:36,391 --> 01:40:37,253
Not possible.

1945
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:39,276
And I'm missing half my right.

1946
01:40:42,542 --> 01:40:45,102
Sorry.

1947
01:40:46,150 --> 01:40:50,502
I think I had this weird thing of like

1948
01:40:52,504 --> 01:40:53,481
based on

1949
01:40:55,096 --> 01:41:00,249
how good of a person you were that would determine how successful you can be.

1950
01:41:00,249 --> 01:41:02,890
And that's not true at all, in my opinion.

1951
01:41:02,890 --> 01:41:12,836
I think that there are good things that can, I think that's more of a personal, it's a
personal win for yourself.

1952
01:41:12,836 --> 01:41:13,361
You know what I mean?

1953
01:41:13,361 --> 01:41:15,297
That's how you sleep at night, fine.

1954
01:41:15,457 --> 01:41:16,428
Yeah, person.

1955
01:41:16,428 --> 01:41:18,939
Yeah, I think that's important, it's important to me.

1956
01:41:18,939 --> 01:41:24,382
But overall, I think as I've gotten older, I've realized, these things are so like,

1957
01:41:24,872 --> 01:41:26,954
not exclusive, you know what I mean?

1958
01:41:26,954 --> 01:41:33,000
Like just because almost the same thing he was saying about like, man, like you want to
think everybody's going to make it.

1959
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,822
And it's like, there's so many people you're like, oh, like I'm rooting for you.

1960
01:41:35,822 --> 01:41:44,771
I'm probably not rooting for that guy, but like that guy would probably, I'm not, I don't
know who has the better chance, but you being just a good guy, don't have shit to do

1961
01:41:44,771 --> 01:41:50,405
necessarily with you actually making it, which is like, it's tough, but it's also,

1962
01:41:50,850 --> 01:41:58,984
I think you can maybe get it back in certain karmic ways, maybe, but once again, brass
tacks, you know, that shit doesn't, you know.

1963
01:41:59,054 --> 01:42:01,482
That's a little bit sad moment like when you realize that one.

1964
01:42:01,482 --> 01:42:04,472
Yeah, because then you go, oh, OK, so.

1965
01:42:04,472 --> 01:42:06,824
your default is just a cool like good dude man.

1966
01:42:07,882 --> 01:42:09,829
You don't have to that's that's your default.

1967
01:42:09,829 --> 01:42:10,139
Yeah.

1968
01:42:10,139 --> 01:42:11,340
That's your DNA is a human.

1969
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:12,111
Yeah.

1970
01:42:12,111 --> 01:42:16,974
And so you're like man the world should reward this because if we were all this way.

1971
01:42:16,974 --> 01:42:30,634
I mean, if you want to talk about being a good human, it's just kind of like we, feel like
there's a lot of games we run into as a society where it's like we tip for tat.

1972
01:42:30,634 --> 01:42:32,814
We tip for tat the wrong shit.

1973
01:42:32,814 --> 01:42:36,854
And it's just like, well, you know, what, what they say, I, for I, at least everyone
blind.

1974
01:42:36,854 --> 01:42:38,614
It's like, that's some real shit though.

1975
01:42:38,614 --> 01:42:43,654
Like it doesn't, things aren't going to work out if.

1976
01:42:44,662 --> 01:42:46,904
you know, we keep playing the same game.

1977
01:42:46,904 --> 01:42:48,989
But at the end of the day, it does for some people.

1978
01:42:48,989 --> 01:42:53,437
And that's why I'm saying the shit doesn't really, doesn't, when it comes to business,
doesn't really matter.

1979
01:42:53,437 --> 01:42:58,286
You know, and when it, and also I think another thing when it comes to business, people.

1980
01:42:58,286 --> 01:42:58,926
do anything.

1981
01:42:58,926 --> 01:43:04,386
Yeah, I think probably in all areas because what you guys won't say here, what you know,
have the question wrap around here.

1982
01:43:04,386 --> 01:43:06,526
You know, there are shitty people in your industry.

1983
01:43:06,526 --> 01:43:07,966
You know, you're saying you know who they are.

1984
01:43:07,966 --> 01:43:11,186
And here's how I know that everywhere.

1985
01:43:11,266 --> 01:43:14,586
Everywhere, every piece of society, everywhere.

1986
01:43:14,586 --> 01:43:21,846
That was going to be my answer to the question was that the industry to me, like I've No,
I'm going to just because I'm going give you all your flowers.

1987
01:43:21,846 --> 01:43:23,426
Just listen to you talk.

1988
01:43:23,446 --> 01:43:27,950
The 20 years I've been in the industry, I have learned like it's a lot of gatekeeping.

1989
01:43:27,950 --> 01:43:30,333
There's just a lot of people who don't want to see people win.

1990
01:43:30,333 --> 01:43:40,604
So to hear y'all talk and just you meeting them, you meeting him through somebody, y'all
meeting at an audition and just showing each other love.

1991
01:43:40,604 --> 01:43:43,116
Y'all don't do nothing but highlight positivity.

1992
01:43:43,116 --> 01:43:45,729
And I think that is so dope.

1993
01:43:45,729 --> 01:43:46,860
That's so dope.

1994
01:43:47,054 --> 01:43:48,770
Thanks for having

1995
01:43:48,770 --> 01:43:52,455
We could have finished with that, but we ain't done with this question.

1996
01:43:52,455 --> 01:43:55,680
This is dope.

1997
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,505
What'd used to think about the world, believe about the world that you don't believe
anymore?

1998
01:43:59,854 --> 01:44:03,434
I used to think this was difficult.

1999
01:44:04,554 --> 01:44:08,954
I used to think that was a lot of Oh my God.

2000
01:44:08,954 --> 01:44:09,674
No, no, no.

2001
01:44:09,674 --> 01:44:12,974
I now know that 10X is easier than 2X.

2002
01:44:12,974 --> 01:44:16,202
Like I now fully believe that.

2003
01:44:16,202 --> 01:44:17,524
sounds woo-wooed everybody listening.

2004
01:44:17,524 --> 01:44:18,045
Why is that?

2005
01:44:18,045 --> 01:44:20,942
Why do you believe 10x is easier than 2x?

2006
01:44:20,942 --> 01:44:23,962
you have to have less conversations with less idiots.

2007
01:44:24,602 --> 01:44:34,082
you say, yeah, nah, see, when you're in the, okay, back to my first car to Honda.

2008
01:44:34,442 --> 01:44:36,162
Everybody was selling a Honda.

2009
01:44:36,582 --> 01:44:38,822
Not too many people are selling a Maybach.

2010
01:44:39,602 --> 01:44:40,902
Maybach, whatever.

2011
01:44:41,942 --> 01:44:44,862
Well, you know what I mean?

2012
01:44:44,862 --> 01:44:49,282
It's, for me, it's sort of like, let me go big.

2013
01:44:50,062 --> 01:44:51,842
Time is finite.

2014
01:44:51,842 --> 01:44:57,142
I don't have time to nickel and dime with you losers.

2015
01:44:57,562 --> 01:44:59,682
Like, I don't want to do that.

2016
01:44:59,682 --> 01:45:01,462
Who's the guy that I need to talk to?

2017
01:45:01,462 --> 01:45:02,062
You?

2018
01:45:02,062 --> 01:45:03,302
Hey, how are you?

2019
01:45:03,302 --> 01:45:04,102
This is what I do.

2020
01:45:04,102 --> 01:45:05,342
This is what I can provide.

2021
01:45:05,342 --> 01:45:07,782
Please, I'm willing to show up every day.

2022
01:45:07,782 --> 01:45:09,182
Be here tomorrow at 7 o'clock.

2023
01:45:09,182 --> 01:45:11,582
I'm here at 6.30 with coffee and donuts.

2024
01:45:12,042 --> 01:45:13,002
That's the difference.

2025
01:45:13,002 --> 01:45:14,982
10X is easier than 2X.

2026
01:45:14,982 --> 01:45:16,772
We keep wanting to do the next.

2027
01:45:16,772 --> 01:45:20,142
It's like no you can do this on a way bigger level

2028
01:45:20,142 --> 01:45:25,789
So you're making an argument that it is way easier and way less sophisticated than
everybody believes that you used to believe.

2029
01:45:27,112 --> 01:45:31,957
You believe that it's way more simple, which is less complex.

2030
01:45:32,299 --> 01:45:36,674
This whole algorithm of success about winning at life than you used to believe it was.

2031
01:45:36,674 --> 01:45:47,374
Yes, it's way more simple, uh way more simple because once you start to roadmap it, you
go, okay, see 10x requires you to have very limited options.

2032
01:45:47,438 --> 01:45:48,418
All in, baby.

2033
01:45:48,418 --> 01:45:49,758
Everybody wants to use that term.

2034
01:45:49,758 --> 01:45:50,838
All in.

2035
01:45:50,918 --> 01:45:54,487
The one thing you say you're going to do.

2036
01:45:54,487 --> 01:46:05,727
it's it's see if it's if it's small if it's fine I like if it's so small you you can do
that a whole bunch of ways But the big thing you can only do one one or two ways So you go

2037
01:46:05,727 --> 01:46:09,770
oh, well, I there's only there's only one way to do this

2038
01:46:13,616 --> 01:46:15,337
So funny.

2039
01:46:15,538 --> 01:46:18,301
You want to know what's so hilarious about that too?

2040
01:46:19,343 --> 01:46:20,494
I'm really not.

2041
01:46:20,494 --> 01:46:21,485
I'm like, like.

2042
01:46:22,219 --> 01:46:26,327
No, what I'm actually saying scary is actually what you believe.

2043
01:46:26,609 --> 01:46:29,915
Your mind works the way that you're challenging yourself.

2044
01:46:30,730 --> 01:46:34,332
put on a medium t-shirt and be like this shit fit.

2045
01:46:35,133 --> 01:46:41,686
That shit, no, what I'm getting at though is he will sit there and say I look good and I
don't give a fuck what you talk.

2046
01:46:41,686 --> 01:46:45,318
That's why I also fuck with him because I go, you know what buddy?

2047
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,740
You can do this with this.

2048
01:46:47,740 --> 01:46:51,328
oh

2049
01:46:51,328 --> 01:47:01,330
Maestro, should have said what I used to believe was a smidium didn't look good on you.

2050
01:47:01,330 --> 01:47:03,693
He thought I had a girdle on that day.

2051
01:47:03,693 --> 01:47:06,797
Looks like a girdle.

2052
01:47:06,797 --> 01:47:08,378
We ain't talking about this.

2053
01:47:08,378 --> 01:47:10,701
We ain't talking about this here.

2054
01:47:11,490 --> 01:47:15,433
But no, the way my mind is wired is scary.

2055
01:47:15,433 --> 01:47:23,467
It's very spooky for anybody on the other side of, anybody on the other side of what I say
that I'm going to do.

2056
01:47:23,488 --> 01:47:25,670
If you're challenging that, you're fucked.

2057
01:47:26,584 --> 01:47:29,092
So basically you're saying don't try to compete with you.

2058
01:47:29,114 --> 01:47:30,890
I'm not the one to compete with.

2059
01:47:30,890 --> 01:47:31,406
see?

2060
01:47:31,406 --> 01:47:33,486
They're going to quit before you, right?

2061
01:47:33,706 --> 01:47:35,146
There you go.

2062
01:47:35,986 --> 01:47:37,686
Before you close this out, I'm not even going close it out.

2063
01:47:37,686 --> 01:47:38,886
Just got one question for you.

2064
01:47:38,886 --> 01:47:47,346
Working around them with so much experience that they got in the industry, what's the
biggest thing that you could say that you learned from them just through their experience?

2065
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:51,884
Listen, when they talk, they've been doing this a lot longer.

2066
01:47:51,884 --> 01:47:53,816
They know a lot more.

2067
01:47:53,816 --> 01:47:56,098
No, no, no, this is not the way.

2068
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,020
It's like, what do you mean?

2069
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:02,645
But like, no, in my head, it's like, yeah, no, nigga, I've been doing this.

2070
01:48:02,645 --> 01:48:03,555
my French.

2071
01:48:03,555 --> 01:48:04,187
Is that true?

2072
01:48:04,187 --> 01:48:04,920
Does he do that?

2073
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:09,755
Because what I know is people will come to you on ask how to do it and then they won't
listen.

2074
01:48:10,022 --> 01:48:19,502
So Jesse gets like he like he take one oh

2075
01:48:19,502 --> 01:48:24,282
So like, if you just did the fucking thing, told you to, amen, already on it, brother.

2076
01:48:24,682 --> 01:48:28,222
I be like, but you had the bullshit with the, I get it, I get it.

2077
01:48:28,222 --> 01:48:30,002
But I also respect that.

2078
01:48:30,002 --> 01:48:35,721
nah, let me see, because every once in a while, he'll come back with something and be
like, yeah, but you could also, so check it out.

2079
01:48:35,721 --> 01:48:36,462
You do this.

2080
01:48:36,462 --> 01:48:38,842
And I'm like, oh shit, I didn't know that either.

2081
01:48:38,842 --> 01:48:41,402
Okay, you came back, thank you.

2082
01:48:41,542 --> 01:48:46,022
But usually it's like, I'm very much like, I hate wasting time.

2083
01:48:46,022 --> 01:48:47,758
Like, I am very.

2084
01:48:47,758 --> 01:48:51,278
Concise I generally can't stay nowhere longer than an hour and a half.

2085
01:48:51,278 --> 01:48:53,070
I gotta get moving

2086
01:48:53,070 --> 01:48:54,714
And people find out where you're at.

2087
01:48:55,215 --> 01:48:57,717
They just have certain tools that I just didn't have.

2088
01:48:57,717 --> 01:49:02,993
Like they have certain tools, like mentally, uh spiritually, belief system wise.

2089
01:49:02,993 --> 01:49:03,839
They have certain tools.

2090
01:49:03,839 --> 01:49:06,536
I have the mental fortitude, right?

2091
01:49:06,536 --> 01:49:07,938
So like our skillsets differ.

2092
01:49:07,938 --> 01:49:10,491
So when they go, hey, listen, I'm having this problem.

2093
01:49:10,491 --> 01:49:13,486
And if it's like some life shit, I can figure that out.

2094
01:49:13,486 --> 01:49:15,691
what happens when the streets meet the country club.

2095
01:49:17,050 --> 01:49:19,102
And now I'm in the country club.

2096
01:49:19,102 --> 01:49:26,507
And one thing I'll definitely give him too is uh he does uh a lot of times too, he'll give
good perspective.

2097
01:49:26,507 --> 01:49:32,912
Because being in this industry and doing all this stuff for so long, it's just like what
we're talking about.

2098
01:49:32,912 --> 01:49:34,032
The shoes become shoes.

2099
01:49:34,032 --> 01:49:35,393
Your house becomes your house.

2100
01:49:35,393 --> 01:49:37,655
All this shit is just used to it.

2101
01:49:37,655 --> 01:49:40,937
And so sometimes I'll say certain things and I'll be talking about something.

2102
01:49:40,937 --> 01:49:42,858
I'll be like, yeah, man, I just feel like, you know what mean?

2103
01:49:42,858 --> 01:49:43,989
Because it's tough to get in here.

2104
01:49:43,989 --> 01:49:47,883
like, no, no, no, no, no, no, Maestro, are you fucking?

2105
01:49:47,883 --> 01:49:48,263
kidding me?

2106
01:49:48,263 --> 01:49:49,386
Shut it down.

2107
01:49:49,548 --> 01:49:51,599
You've done this, this and this.

2108
01:49:51,599 --> 01:49:53,900
Niggas don't even do this.

2109
01:49:53,900 --> 01:49:55,781
How the fuck are you sitting over here?

2110
01:49:55,781 --> 01:49:57,012
Man, stop that shit, bro.

2111
01:49:57,012 --> 01:49:59,703
You better, and then it'd be like, yeah, you're right.

2112
01:49:59,703 --> 01:50:00,664
Yeah, I needed that.

2113
01:50:00,664 --> 01:50:01,134
Thank you.

2114
01:50:01,134 --> 01:50:05,196
And then I can get back to what I'm, but it's like having someone to do that.

2115
01:50:05,196 --> 01:50:09,410
Because it's also, mean, it's another thing too, I'm not resting on my laurels.

2116
01:50:09,410 --> 01:50:15,176
Like, yeah, yeah, I did that, yeah, well we bringing up, shit, that don't matter no more,
that's not in the market right now, that don't matter.

2117
01:50:15,176 --> 01:50:16,287
What are we doing now?

2118
01:50:16,287 --> 01:50:17,919
What's the pushing forward?

2119
01:50:17,919 --> 01:50:24,590
But sometimes you need somebody outside of yourself to remind you, like no, no, no, you're
extremely capable, you've obviously done all this, so.

2120
01:50:24,590 --> 01:50:25,890
So this is actually important.

2121
01:50:25,890 --> 01:50:28,850
wouldn't ask this, but I want to hear from you because you're gonna bring the marketing
thing full circle.

2122
01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:29,990
That's what you're gonna do.

2123
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:31,250
That's what this shit is gonna be.

2124
01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:31,610
Right.

2125
01:50:31,610 --> 01:50:36,350
But hold on, but hold on, but how do we, how do we know who to listen to?

2126
01:50:37,422 --> 01:50:39,918
ah You judge off of, my opinion,

2127
01:50:39,918 --> 01:50:41,288
You're talking about with us.

2128
01:50:41,288 --> 01:50:43,119
guys in general in life.

2129
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:44,642
Who do we know who to listen to?

2130
01:50:44,642 --> 01:50:45,723
Is it about the receipts?

2131
01:50:45,723 --> 01:50:47,324
Who's got the receipts?

2132
01:50:47,704 --> 01:50:48,061
Seats?

2133
01:50:48,061 --> 01:50:48,898
What Strauss said.

2134
01:50:48,898 --> 01:50:55,069
Proof of concept, receipts of your life, receipts of your character, receipts of your
life.

2135
01:50:55,069 --> 01:50:58,602
If we got the same friends, generally speaking, I know I don't.

2136
01:50:58,602 --> 01:51:01,174
generally hang with a bunch of bad people.

2137
01:51:01,174 --> 01:51:04,136
So therefore you must be okay if they like you too.

2138
01:51:04,136 --> 01:51:05,907
That's one way to look.

2139
01:51:05,907 --> 01:51:07,848
Where are you in life?

2140
01:51:08,069 --> 01:51:11,251
Hey, even if you're on your ass, how long you been on your ass?

2141
01:51:11,251 --> 01:51:13,433
Because that's a whole nother thing too.

2142
01:51:13,433 --> 01:51:14,534
You know what I mean?

2143
01:51:14,534 --> 01:51:17,096
I don't mind being a brother when he's down and trying, you know what I mean?

2144
01:51:17,096 --> 01:51:18,637
It happens to all of us.

2145
01:51:18,637 --> 01:51:20,878
Maybe I just met you in a rough season.

2146
01:51:22,097 --> 01:51:25,798
But my boy, it's been four years and you in the exact same spot.

2147
01:51:25,798 --> 01:51:26,858
I can't help it.

2148
01:51:26,858 --> 01:51:32,778
I also, probably ain't been around for this whole four years because I figured that out in
first few months.

2149
01:51:32,818 --> 01:51:33,752
You know what mean?

2150
01:51:33,752 --> 01:51:38,006
But can I also say, though, I don't know if we should be selective.

2151
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:50,339
For the same way you could listen to somebody and gain all the tools, the knowledge, et
cetera, you can also listen to somebody and learn what not to do.

2152
01:51:50,339 --> 01:51:56,966
the principles of meditation ah or just approaching things more in a holistic manner.

2153
01:51:58,658 --> 01:52:00,959
just talk less and just listen period.

2154
01:52:00,980 --> 01:52:09,446
No matter whether it's somebody you need to learn, you know, gain from, somebody you need
to uh basically avoid, you know what I mean?

2155
01:52:09,446 --> 01:52:13,530
um I think there's lessons in all of it.

2156
01:52:13,530 --> 01:52:14,490
You know what I mean?

2157
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:17,372
So I don't, I don't know if it needs to be as selective.

2158
01:52:17,372 --> 01:52:21,055
Now there is discernment within what you take in.

2159
01:52:21,055 --> 01:52:21,706
You know what I mean?

2160
01:52:21,706 --> 01:52:24,618
Cause everybody feels like they're going to try to give you

2161
01:52:24,876 --> 01:52:28,869
their best lesson, their best input, know, their best advice.

2162
01:52:29,050 --> 01:52:33,243
And then so that's where I think it goes to my show's point of then what are the receipts?

2163
01:52:33,243 --> 01:52:39,808
Yeah, because if you're teaching me how to get wealthy, either you better had had it and
lost it all.

2164
01:52:39,808 --> 01:52:41,980
So then I could learn where that went wrong.

2165
01:52:41,980 --> 01:52:42,561
Yep.

2166
01:52:42,561 --> 01:52:44,942
Or then if you, know, or.

2167
01:52:46,244 --> 01:52:48,165
Exactly, exactly.

2168
01:52:49,266 --> 01:52:50,687
There is a part.

2169
01:52:52,009 --> 01:52:54,018
You had to at least have had it.

2170
01:52:54,018 --> 01:52:54,649
like same thing.

2171
01:52:54,649 --> 01:52:58,982
Like if you, if you want to say, hey, how do I make sure I don't spend 30 years in prison?

2172
01:52:58,982 --> 01:52:59,342
Yeah.

2173
01:52:59,342 --> 01:53:03,376
Well, you probably shouldn't and you know what you should probably, you should ask the guy
who spent 30 years in prison.

2174
01:53:03,376 --> 01:53:04,227
Probably.

2175
01:53:04,227 --> 01:53:04,487
Right?

2176
01:53:04,487 --> 01:53:04,677
Yeah.

2177
01:53:04,677 --> 01:53:04,937
Right.

2178
01:53:04,937 --> 01:53:08,660
Because the only thing the person that's going to tell you that didn't is just what didn't
do.

2179
01:53:08,660 --> 01:53:09,321
Don't get caught.

2180
01:53:09,321 --> 01:53:09,591
Right.

2181
01:53:09,591 --> 01:53:10,452
That's right.

2182
01:53:10,452 --> 01:53:13,093
So, but the person there is, let me tell you what sent me.

2183
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:14,256
Yeah, exactly.

2184
01:53:14,256 --> 01:53:15,175
um

2185
01:53:15,175 --> 01:53:17,318
right person based on the question you're trying to get answered.

2186
01:53:17,318 --> 01:53:28,228
Yeah, I mean for me it's uh, I'm super selective like I'm a little bit of both, but I'm
super selective It's like I don't want to know what sent you here for 30 years because I'm

2187
01:53:28,228 --> 01:53:29,589
not going there

2188
01:53:32,458 --> 01:53:35,060
It's just like, that's not somewhere I want to go.

2189
01:53:35,060 --> 01:53:36,642
So that's not even a game I'm playing.

2190
01:53:36,642 --> 01:53:43,778
Like, and I don't want to listen and sit here and listen to the homeless man all day
because it's like, no, I already have my assignment, right?

2191
01:53:43,778 --> 01:53:51,694
I want to talk to the person who has been in his going, where in the direction that I am
headed in, not even the ones who are really going.

2192
01:53:52,055 --> 01:53:53,136
Have you been there?

2193
01:53:53,136 --> 01:53:53,997
Okay.

2194
01:53:53,997 --> 01:53:55,308
I'm not talking to TikTok.

2195
01:53:55,308 --> 01:53:58,940
Hey guy, you just got back from where?

2196
01:53:58,981 --> 01:53:59,531
How was it?

2197
01:53:59,531 --> 01:54:00,418
How was the weather?

2198
01:54:00,418 --> 01:54:01,239
What do I need to have?

2199
01:54:01,239 --> 01:54:02,310
What do I need to prepare for?

2200
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:02,931
I'm that guy.

2201
01:54:02,931 --> 01:54:06,525
I don't want to talk to the person on TikTok because they're telling me to highlight real.

2202
01:54:06,525 --> 01:54:11,564
I want to talk to the person who just got off the plane, who just went, who just got back
and is like, yo.

2203
01:54:11,564 --> 01:54:12,836
know across the

2204
01:54:17,698 --> 01:54:18,568
There was.

2205
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,383
Guys, I'm telling you, it was a three-minute drive.

2206
01:54:22,106 --> 01:54:24,168
I needed to use the restroom.

2207
01:54:25,893 --> 01:54:28,637
Three minutes and I stopped at a KFC.

2208
01:54:29,102 --> 01:54:29,891
That's your first mistake.

2209
01:54:29,891 --> 01:54:31,142
eh

2210
01:54:31,294 --> 01:54:31,895
I'm glad.

2211
01:54:31,895 --> 01:54:34,198
Not much more than KFC over there.

2212
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:41,538
And so I said I gotta pee and it looked like one of the best places around and I went in
there and it I had to be interrogated to be able to use the restroom.

2213
01:54:41,538 --> 01:54:42,170
Damn.

2214
01:54:42,170 --> 01:54:43,764
yeah, I got that Gatorade bottle.

2215
01:54:43,764 --> 01:54:47,673
uh Gatorade bottle.

2216
01:54:48,356 --> 01:54:50,358
you guys, you guys keep going.

2217
01:54:50,358 --> 01:54:55,013
It's good to have different perspectives and different feels and different minds that
y'all can do big **** together but here's what's funny.

2218
01:54:55,013 --> 01:54:56,165
So can a lot of other people.

2219
01:54:56,165 --> 01:55:00,890
So y'all gotta figure out what's gonna make you make it happen because it doesn't always
work out for everybody, right?

2220
01:55:00,890 --> 01:55:01,150
Absolutely.

2221
01:55:01,150 --> 01:55:01,391
Right.

2222
01:55:01,391 --> 01:55:02,993
So hopefully you guys figure that out.

2223
01:55:02,993 --> 01:55:04,394
Alright, mister marketing.

2224
01:55:04,526 --> 01:55:08,294
Well, oh well, you we're back.

2225
01:55:09,940 --> 01:55:11,772
And that's great manifestation.

2226
01:55:11,772 --> 01:55:16,796
And you know, like, it's really hard for me because I'm one of the loudest and, dare I
say, most arrogant people I know.

2227
01:55:16,796 --> 01:55:22,981
But it's really important to know when to take a back seat and listen and respect your
moment, you know, because it's not my moment.

2228
01:55:22,981 --> 01:55:26,544
I'm really happy to have my friends out here representing there.

2229
01:55:26,544 --> 01:55:32,679
But, ah you know, I didn't know I was going to answer this question, but I did think of an
answer as we were talking is uh a lot of people.

2230
01:55:32,679 --> 01:55:37,193
What I thought is to become happy, you had to accomplish your goal.

2231
01:55:37,193 --> 01:55:38,784
And when I found out

2232
01:55:38,834 --> 01:55:46,785
It's actually, you I accomplished, becoming a guy who wants to, grew up in the 90s and
wanted to make movies in Cincinnati.

2233
01:55:47,914 --> 01:55:49,734
There's nothing like that in Cincinnati.

2234
01:55:49,734 --> 01:55:51,974
I know we had Rain Man, but you it was nothing.

2235
01:55:51,974 --> 01:55:56,734
You had to move to New York City and then once I moved to New York City, all the soaps
moved to LA.

2236
01:55:56,734 --> 01:56:03,314
So you know I followed him to LA and what I really found out the truth in that is it's not
about getting to the goal.

2237
01:56:03,314 --> 01:56:07,074
I've actually reached like you know I made a lot of movies that never got made.

2238
01:56:07,074 --> 01:56:16,914
Nobody saw and then I finally made a movie and you know and I'll never forget when my
oldest son watched the Private Eye and he's like Dad, Dad, he just he was genuine.

2239
01:56:16,914 --> 01:56:17,388
You did it.

2240
01:56:17,388 --> 01:56:26,181
You know and like and then after I did it there was like dare I say an emptiness where it
was like It's like take care of your mental health.

2241
01:56:26,181 --> 01:56:29,288
There was an emptiness where I was like, well, what's fucking next?

2242
01:56:29,288 --> 01:56:36,425
know, cuz once you do it then you're like you think you'll be all this happiness and then
you're like, no I got to do something else and everybody's like well, what else you're

2243
01:56:36,425 --> 01:56:36,995
doing?

2244
01:56:36,995 --> 01:56:43,862
So I really found out the answer Well, the answer is like this is like the answer is like
the happiness is actually in this

2245
01:56:43,862 --> 01:56:44,352
journey.

2246
01:56:44,352 --> 01:56:54,005
So you should be enjoying these moments, you know, and you gotta, you gotta learn that
because you're going to have a very depressing fucking life and life is not about that

2247
01:56:54,005 --> 01:56:54,325
life.

2248
01:56:54,325 --> 01:56:57,704
In my opinion, you need money, but it's not about money.

2249
01:56:57,704 --> 01:57:00,567
It's not, you know, you gotta do it.

2250
01:57:01,547 --> 01:57:02,407
You can take the money.

2251
01:57:02,407 --> 01:57:04,288
You know, yeah, maybe that's your life.

2252
01:57:04,288 --> 01:57:08,519
But for me, happiness and finding you happy, maybe money is your happiness.

2253
01:57:08,519 --> 01:57:09,549
No, no, no, no, no.

2254
01:57:09,549 --> 01:57:09,879
No.

2255
01:57:09,879 --> 01:57:12,202
you know, my happiness is fulfillment.

2256
01:57:12,202 --> 01:57:14,203
and whatever I want to do.

2257
01:57:14,364 --> 01:57:21,230
might be, you know, a lot of my time I dream about just being on a beach in Hawaii getting
drunk as fuck every day.

2258
01:57:21,230 --> 01:57:23,071
And that might not everybody's thing.

2259
01:57:23,071 --> 01:57:26,948
But, you know, I had kids when I was in my early...

2260
01:57:30,563 --> 01:57:35,305
But, no, but, you see, most people have not lived the life I have.

2261
01:57:35,305 --> 01:57:36,148
I'm so young.

2262
01:57:36,148 --> 01:57:37,710
I've been to all 50 states.

2263
01:57:37,710 --> 01:57:41,510
I have a kid that's 17 years fucking old that's going to college.

2264
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:42,430
You know what I mean?

2265
01:57:42,430 --> 01:57:47,570
Like I, everybody told me that was the wrong thing to do, but I was like, you know what?

2266
01:57:47,570 --> 01:57:48,310
I'm an Eagles guy.

2267
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:49,670
I'm gonna fucking do anything.

2268
01:57:49,670 --> 01:57:52,850
So I really believe that's one thing that I have.

2269
01:57:52,850 --> 01:57:55,510
might not be the most intelligent person in this room.

2270
01:57:55,510 --> 01:58:00,830
I might not be the most wealthiest person, but I can do everything I fucking said and I've
proven it.

2271
01:58:00,830 --> 01:58:05,646
And I found the happiness in just doing it.

2272
01:58:05,646 --> 01:58:06,408
100.

2273
01:58:06,408 --> 01:58:09,920
The pursuit of happiness is the happiness is the

2274
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:18,185
that's like people get too caught up in what they want to be and what they want to do and
how much in reality, none of it fucking matters because you're not taking it to your

2275
01:58:18,185 --> 01:58:18,696
grave.

2276
01:58:18,696 --> 01:58:19,466
Enjoy where you're at.

2277
01:58:19,466 --> 01:58:21,768
You can use this money and getting the nice cars.

2278
01:58:21,768 --> 01:58:22,058
Yeah.

2279
01:58:22,058 --> 01:58:23,288
But enjoy it, man.

2280
01:58:23,288 --> 01:58:24,214
Enjoy it.

2281
01:58:24,214 --> 01:58:25,480
Enjoy your time with kids.

2282
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:31,624
And I mean, that's there's something in that where I think people are blinded about what
everybody else wants to do.

2283
01:58:31,624 --> 01:58:33,625
And in reality, it's not real.

2284
01:58:33,625 --> 01:58:35,296
And that's where God comes in again.

2285
01:58:35,296 --> 01:58:42,250
Yeah, and every and everybody has their different like you say everybody has their
different dream like Yeah, he wants to live in Japan.

2286
01:58:42,250 --> 01:58:53,107
I don't want to be drunk on a beach in Hawaii We all want to do different things like that
doesn't make anyone's dream

2287
01:58:53,774 --> 01:58:54,798
Oh

2288
01:58:54,798 --> 01:58:58,378
On that, I don't think we should step on other people's dreams.

2289
01:58:58,378 --> 01:59:01,638
you know, there are a lot of people who told me I'm a boy scout.

2290
01:59:01,778 --> 01:59:03,758
There's somebody who's dream, too.

2291
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,610
You know?

2292
01:59:06,678 --> 01:59:11,986
There is a mentally handicapped person that can only get a job at Goodwill and guess what?

2293
01:59:11,986 --> 01:59:13,889
And on fucking Goodwill.

2294
01:59:13,889 --> 01:59:15,241
You are not being humane.

2295
01:59:15,241 --> 01:59:17,198
And I understand, I understand.

2296
01:59:17,198 --> 01:59:18,658
me wrap a hug around you.

2297
01:59:18,658 --> 01:59:20,718
Let me wrap a positive hug around you.

2298
01:59:20,718 --> 01:59:21,558
EEEE

2299
01:59:22,542 --> 01:59:23,182
you know what?

2300
01:59:23,182 --> 01:59:25,222
You just gave me real respect because I never thought about that.

2301
01:59:25,222 --> 01:59:26,442
was like, wants to work a burger.

2302
01:59:26,442 --> 01:59:28,803
Actually, Denzel brought up this perspective.

2303
01:59:28,803 --> 01:59:38,126
was at a party one time, and you gotta understand, being in these movies, right, like
everybody's so interested in what we do because not a lot of people do it.

2304
01:59:38,126 --> 01:59:40,407
A lot of people are too afraid to do this.

2305
01:59:40,407 --> 01:59:43,868
And we took a chance and said, all right, we're fucking doing it, you know?

2306
01:59:43,868 --> 01:59:45,468
And everybody wants to know about that.

2307
01:59:45,468 --> 01:59:49,639
And this person, I forget where it was, he asked Denzel, and Denzel says, no.

2308
01:59:50,130 --> 01:59:51,510
like the guy says.

2309
01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:55,813
Hey, I know you wouldn't be interested, but I'm a, I forget what it was, a plumber or
something like that.

2310
01:59:55,813 --> 01:59:57,954
And Denzel was like, no, no, no, no, no.

2311
01:59:57,954 --> 02:00:01,036
Everybody's always asking me about the fucking uh movies.

2312
02:00:01,036 --> 02:00:04,238
It's actually more interesting what you do.

2313
02:00:04,238 --> 02:00:04,958
You know what I mean?

2314
02:00:04,958 --> 02:00:10,776
So I do, uh I think people do need to be, uh you know, I mean, I know there's a.

2315
02:00:10,776 --> 02:00:11,082
Hug.

2316
02:00:11,082 --> 02:00:11,758
in question.

2317
02:00:11,758 --> 02:00:16,346
I'm hugger, nobody wants me to get the dance.

2318
02:00:16,346 --> 02:00:22,966
no, but the inquisitiveness, I, shameless plug, I have my own podcast as well called
Surrounded by Idiots.

2319
02:00:22,966 --> 02:00:25,346
And I started that because it was same idea.

2320
02:00:25,346 --> 02:00:33,846
I interview a lot of people in the entertainment industry and all that kind of stuff, but
I love talking to people who don't do that because I get to learn so many, like I would

2321
02:00:33,846 --> 02:00:44,034
much rather pick your brain about things that I literally know very little to nothing
about than I would, you know, talking to somebody about, you know, like,

2322
02:00:44,034 --> 02:00:45,794
you know, talking production jargon or whatever.

2323
02:00:45,794 --> 02:00:46,866
Like, it's still cool.

2324
02:00:46,866 --> 02:00:47,576
I enjoy it.

2325
02:00:47,576 --> 02:00:51,418
But it's like, no, I'm learning something new.

2326
02:00:51,418 --> 02:00:56,361
there's a whole compartment in my brain that just has, it's not filled with any of this
shit.

2327
02:00:56,641 --> 02:01:02,925
And then like, I love learning like even just like where people come from and then how did
they get here and then what made you make that choice?

2328
02:01:02,925 --> 02:01:04,676
So it's like, I see what he means.

2329
02:01:04,676 --> 02:01:05,586
It's like.

2330
02:01:07,394 --> 02:01:10,036
That's that exposure we keep talking about.

2331
02:01:10,036 --> 02:01:13,869
Being around people who don't live in your bubble, don't live in your ecosystem.

2332
02:01:13,869 --> 02:01:18,883
mean, shit, we wouldn't even have all the fucking racial issues we had if more people just
even did that.

2333
02:01:18,883 --> 02:01:19,523
You know what I mean?

2334
02:01:19,523 --> 02:01:23,906
Because at the end of the day, a lot of uh this shit is just straight up ignorance.

2335
02:01:23,906 --> 02:01:27,769
You don't want to have certain conversations just because I straight up don't know how to
start the conversation.

2336
02:01:27,769 --> 02:01:28,846
You know I mean?

2337
02:01:28,846 --> 02:01:30,626
I've been telling you about that.

2338
02:01:30,686 --> 02:01:31,246
Everybody's scared.

2339
02:01:31,246 --> 02:01:31,842
don't want to say.

2340
02:01:31,842 --> 02:01:32,866
You don't

2341
02:01:33,582 --> 02:01:36,113
They're scared but it does take reciprocity in that.

2342
02:01:36,113 --> 02:01:36,404
Yes.

2343
02:01:36,404 --> 02:01:39,125
That what somebody's going to say one on one that they're not going to be attacked for it.

2344
02:01:39,125 --> 02:01:39,485
Correct.

2345
02:01:39,485 --> 02:01:39,602
Right.

2346
02:01:39,602 --> 02:01:41,516
And so and then that person has to be.

2347
02:01:41,516 --> 02:01:44,558
You have to be willing to hear some **** You don't want to hear from somebody.

2348
02:01:44,558 --> 02:01:45,629
Like you think about the guy.

2349
02:01:45,629 --> 02:01:46,949
His name was Darryl Davis.

2350
02:01:46,949 --> 02:01:48,250
That black musician.

2351
02:01:48,250 --> 02:01:49,521
Oh You've heard about him, right?

2352
02:01:49,521 --> 02:01:49,791
Yeah.

2353
02:01:49,791 --> 02:01:49,921
Yeah.

2354
02:01:49,921 --> 02:01:51,992
He's been on Brogan's podcast and stuff.

2355
02:01:51,992 --> 02:01:53,753
And the guy that was in the KKK.

2356
02:01:53,753 --> 02:01:58,576
And the guy came up to him and came to his concert and he's like gotten like twenty-five
or thirty of these dudes now.

2357
02:01:58,576 --> 02:01:58,776
Yeah.

2358
02:01:58,776 --> 02:02:01,377
To put down all their **** and now he's just great friends with them.

2359
02:02:01,377 --> 02:02:02,638
So the crazy

2360
02:02:03,180 --> 02:02:08,556
the black guy who was the one being judged by the organization is actually the one that
had to take the high road.

2361
02:02:08,817 --> 02:02:16,837
I'm not saying he was supposed to, I'm not saying he had to, but to have that type of
outcome, probably the person that we would argue and make the, the, make the, probably the

2362
02:02:16,837 --> 02:02:18,259
process they shouldn't have to.

2363
02:02:18,259 --> 02:02:19,471
Well, guess what?

2364
02:02:19,471 --> 02:02:22,318
If everybody takes a position I shouldn't have to, we're all fucked.

2365
02:02:22,318 --> 02:02:23,718
tip for tat I'm talking about.

2366
02:02:23,718 --> 02:02:30,874
Everybody wants to take the, well fuck it, when this happens to us is this, and when this
happens, it can't be that or no one wins.

2367
02:02:30,874 --> 02:02:31,864
And in it only.

2368
02:02:31,864 --> 02:02:37,559
Continues we you know individualistic individual.

2369
02:02:37,559 --> 02:02:39,228
Thank you so much.

2370
02:02:39,228 --> 02:02:41,276
you're- you're- You're-

2371
02:02:42,744 --> 02:02:45,798
Can I get my damn positive hug?

2372
02:02:45,798 --> 02:02:48,360
Can I get my positive hug to this guy?

2373
02:02:48,534 --> 02:02:53,236
He yelled at me so I feel like I got So, here's what I think.

2374
02:02:53,236 --> 02:02:57,280
Um I only have one request to people.

2375
02:02:58,904 --> 02:03:02,814
Do the thing that you're choosing to do with everything you got.

2376
02:03:02,814 --> 02:03:03,676
Yeah.

2377
02:03:04,628 --> 02:03:05,161
That's it.

2378
02:03:05,161 --> 02:03:05,715
Go on.

2379
02:03:05,715 --> 02:03:06,454
oh

2380
02:03:06,454 --> 02:03:07,998
you will have a good life.

2381
02:03:07,998 --> 02:03:08,419
Yeah.

2382
02:03:08,419 --> 02:03:08,980
Yeah.

2383
02:03:08,980 --> 02:03:15,956
Because the plumbers that helped me build properties, plumbers guys, they live a good
life.

2384
02:03:16,998 --> 02:03:17,938
no, not good.

2385
02:03:17,938 --> 02:03:20,897
Well, they live better than...

2386
02:03:20,897 --> 02:03:21,494
Yeah.

2387
02:03:21,494 --> 02:03:24,315
have awesome homes on five acres.

2388
02:03:25,216 --> 02:03:26,456
all the stuff.

2389
02:03:26,937 --> 02:03:31,659
so, everybody that I see that takes their vocation.

2390
02:03:31,659 --> 02:03:35,420
Mm And they make the decision to do it the best damn they can.

2391
02:03:35,821 --> 02:03:37,251
And they get better every day.

2392
02:03:37,251 --> 02:03:37,591
Yeah.

2393
02:03:37,591 --> 02:03:38,372
They have a great life.

2394
02:03:38,372 --> 02:03:39,204
great life.

2395
02:03:39,204 --> 02:03:42,776
Enderful field because you know that you put in the fucking work.

2396
02:03:42,776 --> 02:03:43,596
Give him a hug.

2397
02:03:43,596 --> 02:03:46,446
Let me tell you, oh

2398
02:03:46,446 --> 02:03:47,524
Hey

2399
02:03:47,524 --> 02:03:47,665
them.

2400
02:03:47,665 --> 02:03:48,956
I mean, we need them, y'all.

2401
02:03:48,956 --> 02:03:50,358
Like people need from me from real estate.

2402
02:03:50,358 --> 02:03:51,780
We need y'all from entertainment.

2403
02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:52,030
Right?

2404
02:03:52,030 --> 02:03:53,763
We need bankers to lend us some money.

2405
02:03:53,763 --> 02:03:55,831
Like we need all these people.

2406
02:03:55,831 --> 02:03:58,512
The ecosystem, we miss that.

2407
02:03:58,512 --> 02:04:01,210
We all are here to work together.

2408
02:04:01,210 --> 02:04:05,664
on this podcast are making millions on Etsy that have built just businesses and places.

2409
02:04:05,664 --> 02:04:07,295
It's like what in the hell?

2410
02:04:07,295 --> 02:04:09,276
And they just chose to be the best.

2411
02:04:10,297 --> 02:04:12,999
And when they chose to be the best, they didn't start out being.

2412
02:04:12,999 --> 02:04:15,821
You gotta be willing to accept this journey and we suck.

2413
02:04:15,841 --> 02:04:21,446
All the all the times, see we don't see all the auditions that y'all just got booted out
of.

2414
02:04:21,446 --> 02:04:24,358
oh How many times did you walk away and think, man, that's awesome.

2415
02:04:24,358 --> 02:04:25,349
That's what I should get.

2416
02:04:25,349 --> 02:04:26,773
And you just don't get it.

2417
02:04:26,773 --> 02:04:28,266
ah.

2418
02:04:28,334 --> 02:04:31,814
After a while, you start just throwing them away once you walk out.

2419
02:04:31,814 --> 02:04:33,174
It's like, it's here.

2420
02:04:33,174 --> 02:04:34,174
It's in my brain.

2421
02:04:34,174 --> 02:04:34,874
I'm going to do the thing.

2422
02:04:34,874 --> 02:04:35,894
I'm giving you my all.

2423
02:04:35,894 --> 02:04:37,627
But then when I leave here, I got it.

2424
02:04:37,627 --> 02:04:40,233
auditions do you think you had to go on to get one?

2425
02:04:40,233 --> 02:04:42,338
How many do you go on to get one?

2426
02:04:42,338 --> 02:04:46,318
We're 30 years at how many?

2427
02:04:46,318 --> 02:04:47,457
Are we talking about averages?

2428
02:04:47,457 --> 02:04:47,822
Yeah.

2429
02:04:47,822 --> 02:04:48,822
I get to get one.

2430
02:04:48,822 --> 02:04:49,922
you have to go on a hundred?

2431
02:04:49,922 --> 02:04:51,382
Do you have to go on 150?

2432
02:04:51,382 --> 02:04:53,294
Do have to go on 37?

2433
02:04:53,294 --> 02:04:55,434
At least to 30.

2434
02:04:55,712 --> 02:04:57,263
Yeah, I say it's smooth.

2435
02:04:57,263 --> 02:05:01,785
But, well, you're saying that now with the talent that you have.

2436
02:05:01,906 --> 02:05:06,188
And even as a kid, as a kid, the pool was smaller.

2437
02:05:06,188 --> 02:05:08,910
So that 25 to 30 makes more sense as a kid.

2438
02:05:08,910 --> 02:05:12,412
As an adult, I think that's much larger for somebody who's just starting out.

2439
02:05:12,412 --> 02:05:16,974
Maestro and I have the privilege of doing that because of the talent that we've amassed
over the years.

2440
02:05:18,795 --> 02:05:23,718
I think that's that's that number grows far larger for somebody else.

2441
02:05:27,822 --> 02:05:29,296
Isn't it nice to

2442
02:05:31,276 --> 02:05:33,977
this is the way it is in sales in real estate and stuff.

2443
02:05:33,977 --> 02:05:36,476
You do this for 10 years and they grind.

2444
02:05:36,476 --> 02:05:39,308
Everybody thinks being a realtor, they watch Selling Sunset and all the things.

2445
02:05:39,308 --> 02:05:40,208
It's just so rare.

2446
02:05:40,208 --> 02:05:41,989
That's not really the way it works.

2447
02:05:41,989 --> 02:05:49,061
You can put 10 years of grind in and when you actually get the call instead of having to
prospect for it.

2448
02:05:49,061 --> 02:05:56,693
When they call you and said, hey man, somebody just told me that I shouldn't go through a
real estate transaction without having you.

2449
02:05:57,013 --> 02:05:57,483
Right?

2450
02:05:57,483 --> 02:05:57,663
Yeah.

2451
02:05:57,663 --> 02:06:00,174
And so when you get the call,

2452
02:06:00,482 --> 02:06:03,107
from the director or from the says, know what?

2453
02:06:03,107 --> 02:06:04,430
You're the person for this.

2454
02:06:04,430 --> 02:06:06,628
You need to come in and read for it but it's pretty much yours.

2455
02:06:06,628 --> 02:06:07,536
It's yours to lose.

2456
02:06:07,536 --> 02:06:07,829
Yeah.

2457
02:06:07,829 --> 02:06:09,038
How good's that for

2458
02:06:09,038 --> 02:06:10,118
Oh, incredible.

2459
02:06:10,838 --> 02:06:15,878
Well, because you also feel like, oh, oh, shit, so what I've been doing is there, you
know, I mean, that's all.

2460
02:06:15,878 --> 02:06:23,218
OK, so this and that's that what you say that chasing greatness is like, well, that's the
hit you need to keep doing it because you're like, OK, so this is a good.

2461
02:06:23,218 --> 02:06:23,678
All right.

2462
02:06:23,678 --> 02:06:24,798
I'm good.

2463
02:06:24,798 --> 02:06:26,278
So I'm doing something right.

2464
02:06:26,278 --> 02:06:26,792
Keep going.

2465
02:06:26,792 --> 02:06:33,624
But also, also at that point, thankfully the work you've already put out is now starting
to show for itself.

2466
02:06:33,624 --> 02:06:38,105
However, once you start getting the call, now it's a different responsibility.

2467
02:06:38,245 --> 02:06:46,967
know, when you go from number 20 or number 15 or number 10 on the call sheet to number one
on the call sheet, it's a different type of responsibility.

2468
02:06:46,967 --> 02:06:56,290
And the first time you lead a film, which is the same way the first time you put in a
management position, the first time you're leading your own project, whatever it may be.

2469
02:06:56,706 --> 02:07:05,812
Different position comes with different headaches comes with a different responsibility
comes with a different grace that you need to carry And so a lot of people think they want

2470
02:07:05,812 --> 02:07:13,388
that until they finally get it So once you start getting the calls now you have to start
moving a little bit different and you have to be more intentional with your time

2471
02:07:13,388 --> 02:07:15,385
And that's what happened with Brand New.

2472
02:07:15,532 --> 02:07:16,766
more discipline.

2473
02:07:16,910 --> 02:07:17,412
Discipline.

2474
02:07:17,412 --> 02:07:19,461
Discipline has to shoot every...

2475
02:07:20,598 --> 02:07:21,588
You know what's so crazy?

2476
02:07:21,588 --> 02:07:23,459
You guys are thinking about bigger directors.

2477
02:07:23,459 --> 02:07:25,060
I'm thinking about y'all.

2478
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:28,901
That's how I got the call to do the music for Brand New.

2479
02:07:30,082 --> 02:07:33,323
The spookiest shit ever, because now I'm like, oh damn.

2480
02:07:33,423 --> 02:07:36,004
I already know Denzel and I know Maestro.

2481
02:07:36,805 --> 02:07:41,356
This is like Goggins and I don't even know who to call Denzel.

2482
02:07:41,356 --> 02:07:43,117
He's just like, Jesus Christ.

2483
02:07:43,117 --> 02:07:48,046
It's You see what I'm saying?

2484
02:07:48,046 --> 02:07:49,126
Thank

2485
02:07:50,190 --> 02:07:53,030
And for me, that's how that feels.

2486
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:58,610
So how you're asking them for like maybe bigger roles, that's how it felt for me to get
the call for Brand New.

2487
02:07:58,610 --> 02:08:01,490
And I took it so seriously, literal.

2488
02:08:01,650 --> 02:08:06,569
Like when they needed music, I send over four, five, 10, 20 records.

2489
02:08:06,569 --> 02:08:07,750
Like I'm that guy.

2490
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:09,710
I'm not just sending you one.

2491
02:08:09,970 --> 02:08:10,630
Yo, I got this.

2492
02:08:10,630 --> 02:08:11,610
I got this flavor too.

2493
02:08:11,610 --> 02:08:12,570
I'm like a dope dealer.

2494
02:08:12,570 --> 02:08:13,890
I'm like, yo, I got this.

2495
02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:15,050
What you think about this?

2496
02:08:15,050 --> 02:08:16,210
No, no, no, we don't want that.

2497
02:08:16,210 --> 02:08:17,530
okay, well, I got this too.

2498
02:08:17,530 --> 02:08:19,990
It's like, it's always the new flavor.

2499
02:08:20,566 --> 02:08:26,530
It's interesting that you ask them that about that, because I'm like, no, that's how I
when I got the call about this.

2500
02:08:26,530 --> 02:08:27,430
pressure.

2501
02:08:27,491 --> 02:08:28,231
No, it's on you but.

2502
02:08:28,231 --> 02:08:28,941
A mince.

2503
02:08:28,941 --> 02:08:30,572
But you but here's what's great.

2504
02:08:31,073 --> 02:08:36,246
Because the person that you showed up to be in the friendship, you got the call way
sooner, way sooner.

2505
02:08:36,246 --> 02:08:36,826
Yeah.

2506
02:08:36,826 --> 02:08:39,337
You all have known each other for five years now.

2507
02:08:40,398 --> 02:08:42,089
But in the time anyway.

2508
02:08:42,089 --> 02:08:43,400
Yeah.

2509
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:44,830
Thank you all for coming in.

2510
02:08:44,830 --> 02:08:45,431
Thank you.

2511
02:08:45,431 --> 02:08:46,289
This was fun.

2512
02:08:46,289 --> 02:08:46,998
job.

2513
02:08:46,998 --> 02:08:49,446
because my marketing guy had failed us.

2514
02:08:50,062 --> 02:08:52,689
Because he yelled at me.

2515
02:08:53,486 --> 02:08:53,934
I

2516
02:08:53,934 --> 02:08:55,231
I need to wash that tape back.

2517
02:08:55,231 --> 02:08:56,039
don't know if I was young.

2518
02:08:56,039 --> 02:08:57,046
Hold on, hold on.

2519
02:08:57,046 --> 02:09:01,088
What I do want to say for everybody listening, first of all, thank you for having us on
your podcast.

2520
02:09:01,088 --> 02:09:04,009
Thank you for the platform being given to everybody.

2521
02:09:04,009 --> 02:09:06,100
The project that we're referencing is brand new.

2522
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:07,890
It's a passion project of ours.

2523
02:09:07,890 --> 02:09:08,761
Labor of Love.

2524
02:09:08,761 --> 02:09:12,119
We've been at it since 2021, 2025.

2525
02:09:12,119 --> 02:09:15,924
Finally, we closed a two year distribution deal with All Black.

2526
02:09:15,924 --> 02:09:18,195
It is an AMC plus streaming network.

2527
02:09:18,195 --> 02:09:20,906
So right now in All Black, we are number one on the podcast.

2528
02:09:20,906 --> 02:09:27,038
Number one, watch short number 11 for the same debut month that we came out.

2529
02:09:27,114 --> 02:09:31,306
across the platform period and number 17 is the highest performing project on the numbers.

2530
02:09:31,306 --> 02:09:34,887
So please go check out brand new right now in all black.

2531
02:09:34,887 --> 02:09:40,139
We also dropped a soundtrack by these two gentlemen, EP by Maestro Jesse Janari.

2532
02:09:40,139 --> 02:09:43,333
He wrote some of the title tracks on there and has tracks in it as well.

2533
02:09:43,333 --> 02:09:43,561
Absolutely.

2534
02:09:43,561 --> 02:09:44,431
Please support.

2535
02:09:44,431 --> 02:09:47,022
We have the full feature film that is coming.

2536
02:09:47,022 --> 02:09:48,333
It's right now in development.

2537
02:09:48,333 --> 02:09:51,364
So stay tuned at brand new underscore film.

2538
02:09:51,364 --> 02:09:53,105
That's how you find us on Instagram.

2539
02:09:53,105 --> 02:09:54,165
Tap in with us.

2540
02:09:54,165 --> 02:09:55,778
Let us know what you think about it.

2541
02:09:55,778 --> 02:09:57,201
We super appreciate the love.

2542
02:09:57,201 --> 02:09:59,826
The only reason why we can do it is because of your support.

2543
02:10:00,043 --> 02:10:03,107
And add maestro on Instagram, MAESTRO.

2544
02:10:03,363 --> 02:10:08,396
And at Jesse Janari, J-E-S-S-E-J-A-N-A-R-I.

2545
02:10:08,396 --> 02:10:10,178
Wait, hold on, Denzel